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Old 02 September 2014, 05:05   #11
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No one can justify the amount of money that has been wasted on this case of family love

They wanted better treatment for there child who wasnt getting it here so they prepared and spent out on the equipment they needed and got it done there selves - no the doctors didnt like it so they made this story of him being in iminent danger - they and anyone else who has a connection with locking them up and baring them from seing there ill boy should be rounded up and locked away not the parents
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Missing Child - URGENT REQUEST

I've been through much of what the guy said, the little pump and feed tube is the pipe up his nose and into his stomach, I had the same pump for six months, my head was zapped and I had chemo at the same place, over two years now and I still haven't got all my taste back and have no saliva.
Me being a grumpy old bastard did ask questions and pull them up when they left me in a corridor and forgot I was there for a blood test, fed me two lots medication for six weeks that counteracted each other, when you complain about stuff like this they mark you're records, something like an aggressive stamp.
Can I sympathise with this guy, to fecking right I can, all the quacks should be answerable for there own actions, but they hide behind this don't question us or else attitude, they don't tell you you're face is going to swell up like a football and when you've spent a whole weekend not being able to get hold of anyone till Monday you ain't happy and then to be told, oh that's normal, really gets me going another red star on my records, just a small insight to my problems with the same hospital, I really feel for this family, more than most !
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As was said at the top of the thread there will be more than meets the eye to this - I believe they refused treatment on religious grounds and Wiki says: As of 2012 there have been no controlled trials to demonstrate that proton therapy yields improved survival, or other clinical outcomes of course a lot may have changed since then - I hope that puts a little perspective on the situation.

I personally believe that no parent has the right to endanger a child's life for any reason let alone religious ones. Once you're 18 then I have no problem at all with people refusing treatment for themselves - my mother in law's partner is really quite ill with cancer and he is having chemo on the chance it will give him a bit longer despite the fact that what time he has left will be unpleasant to say the least, if he had refused treatment I would understand.
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As was said at the top of the thread there will be more than meets the eye to this - I believe they refused treatment on religious grounds and Wiki says: As of 2012 there have been no controlled trials to demonstrate that proton therapy yields improved survival, or other clinical outcomes of course a lot may have changed since then - I hope that puts a little perspective on the situation.

I personally believe that no parent has the right to endanger a child's life for any reason let alone religious ones. Once you're 18 then I have no problem at all with people refusing treatment for themselves - my mother in law's partner is really quite ill with cancer and he is having chemo on the chance it will give him a bit longer despite the fact that what time he has left will be unpleasant to say the least, if he had refused treatment I would understand.
Regardless of the religious/medical grounds, the parents had not committed a criminal offence in the eyes of the law. The child wasn't under any court protection order & as such, the parents had every right to choose which treatment their child received or didn't as the case maybe. Under EU law, the family had free movement within the EU & have broken no laws. Whether their action is morally right, I'm hardly the one to judge. The British state overstepped the mark, which is now being demonstrated by the intense backpedalling from the very top. The case was handled appallingly & without any regard for the poor little sod at the centre of it all.
Look at me, I'm going all soft again. Where's Mollers when I need him.
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Regardless of the religious/medical grounds, the parents had not committed a criminal offence in the eyes of the law. The child wasn't under any court protection order & as such, the parents had every right to choose which treatment their child received or didn't as the case maybe. Under EU law, the family had free movement within the EU & have broken no laws. Whether their action is morally right, I'm hardly the one to judge. The British state overstepped the mark, which is now being demonstrated by the intense backpedalling from the very top. The case was handled appallingly & without any regard for the poor little sod at the centre of it all.
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I think we're basically in agreement - I think the hospitals take on the situation was that "in their opinion" the parents were putting the childs life at risk and of course they have a statutory responsibility to protect that life, there is obviously a line somewhere in the sand which denotes how far you should go to protect that life especially one that already had a presumably life limiting condition and I can see where it would appear that the line was crossed some way back in this case. However I'm sure there are more facts to come out of this before we judge the NHS and the Police especially regarding the treatment the child may have been denied by the parents taking the child away.
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I can't see this thread going anywhere other than:
  • random speculation on the specific circumstances
  • a debate on religion
  • a debate on NHS & political policy
which is pretty much off limits for RIBnet

Given the boy has been found the thread has served its purpose; hopefully he is getting all the care he needs and now that the parents have been released from custody the family can get on with discussing the best care with the professionals out of the media spotlight.
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