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Old 10 November 2005, 13:17   #61
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To be fair, Des.. he could be 102 years old.... you just don't know..
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Old 10 November 2005, 13:26   #62
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To be fair, Des.. he could be 102 years old.... you just don't know..
Or even older here is a photo
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Old 10 November 2005, 13:27   #63
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explain to me the difference?

If I may be so bold Mr. W, I'll do that.

One of the examples given is far more efficient at slowing the vehicle down than the other.

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.. although I do change down on roundabouts etc to avoid kickdown which can unsettle the handling.
Kickdown is the changing down of an auto box when the accelerator pedal is pressed firmly for the purpose of accelerating briskly. As I said, I'm doubtful as to your experience of driving automatics.

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I had read that you can't put an autobox into too low a gear but I have NEVER tried - I have too much mechanical empathy for that!!!
Why would you nead 'mechanical empathy'? It wont change down. And if you have all this mechanical empathy, how come you are getting disc brakes to the point of fading?
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Old 10 November 2005, 13:33   #65
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Sounds to me like you need lessons. You don't seem to understand the basic principles of defensive driving or that there may be driving techniques of which you are unaware.

Now, don't tell me. You've never had an accident.

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And what exactly leads you to that conclusion? There are plenty of driving techniques I am aware of - don't have to apporove of them though!!!

I have actually had an accident - in 1989 when I was a very unexperienced driver .Swerved to avoid some debris on the motorway(fridge off a lorry) and ended up going down a 30' embankment with no crash barrier into a concerete ditch at 75mph - ouch!!!

Taught me that next time it would be better to HIT the debris!!!
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One of the examples given is far more efficient at slowing the vehicle down than the other.
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**Aimed at no one in particular**

Matt used to have a good signature line...

" Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with their experience"...
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Kickdown is the changing down of an auto box when the accelerator pedal is pressed firmly for the purpose of accelerating briskly. As I said, I'm doubtful as to your experience of driving automatics.

I don't remember saying that.

Why would you nead 'mechanical empathy'? I wont change down. And if you have all this mechanical empathy, how come you are getting disc brakes to the point of fading?
"Whilst it is good practice on particularly steep hills, just as a vehicle control measure, the majority of british main roads do not have inclines steep enough to require it." is what you said.

I am WELL aware of what kickdown is - which is why if you change down BEFORE hand you don't get unexpected kickdown when you dont want it!!!

The mechanical empathy bit means that I couldn't bring myself to stick a gearbox into 1st at 60mph just to see if it would let me!!!
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