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Old 10 November 2005, 11:10   #31
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Probably because it's good practice to be in the correct gear for a given (low)speed for descending hills.

I'll inform my instructors at the Emergency Services driving college that the Roadcraft driving system that Police/Fire/Ambulance use is flawed.

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Leave us out of it... we just used to use the vehicle in front.. that saves all the wear and tear....
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Old 10 November 2005, 11:16   #32
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we just used to use the vehicle in front.. that saves all the wear and tear
Yeh, but you Yellerlegs were only allowed to use the brakes on instruction from your Subbie who was usually asleep.

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Old 10 November 2005, 11:22   #33
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Old 10 November 2005, 11:23   #34
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'ere DM are they still using Roadcraft?

I guess if it works don't fix it? Must be many years old by now? Have they finally got a section on ABS brakes?

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Old 10 November 2005, 11:25   #35
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Probably because it's good practice to be in the correct gear for a given (low)speed for descending hills.

I'll inform my instructors at the Emergency Services driving college that the Roadcraft driving system that Police/Fire/Ambulance use is flawed.

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So the correct gear is NOT top gear for going down steep hills then?

Just try driving in snow or ice and not using engine braking going down hills - or offroad driving for that matter - the golden rule is NEVER touch the brakes!!!

Just phoned a bloke I know who just happens to be a driving instructor for our local Fire Brigade - he said the procedure they use is to select the right gear for the hill - say 3rd or 2nd for a steep one - so that the exhaust brake is working well - use the footbrake as and when needed to stop the vehicle running away.
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Old 10 November 2005, 11:40   #36
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So the correct gear is NOT top gear for going down steep hills then?
That depends. You match your gear to your speed.

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Just try driving in snow or ice.
I spent twenty odd years driving emergency vehicles in snow and ice and now I find that, according to Codprawns School of Motoring, I've been doing it all wrong. Bugger.

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That depends. You match your gear to your speed.



I spent twenty odd years driving emergency vehicles in snow and ice and now I find that, according to Codprawns School of Motoring, I've been doing it all wrong. Bugger.

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Come off it - I said to use engine braking - you said "why wreck an engine when you can use the brakes". Now you say match your gear to your speed - surely they mean the same thing???

What have you been doing "wrong" in snow and ice? Tell me the correct way to do it or do different laws of physics apply to "emergency" vehicles compared to normal ones???
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That depends. You match your gear to your speed.



I spent twenty odd years driving emergency vehicles in snow and ice and now I find that, according to Codprawns School of Motoring, I've been doing it all wrong. Bugger.

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Have they finally got a section on ABS brakes?
The bible was revised in 2001 to take account of technology advances like ABS but cadence braking in non ABS vehicles is still part of the syllabus.

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Cheers David

Guess its time to go and get a new copy

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