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Old 08 March 2006, 09:45   #21
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..... Stopping people drink on boats - no evidence but maybe a pro-active move.......
OK taking your argument forwards, what other proactive laws should be passed
It is a fact that most children are murdered by a member of their family, should all children be taken away at birth to prevent this Obviously the answer is no, because although a few will die most will have a normal childhood.
Applying the same to drink-boating, a few will wrap their boat and family around the nearest rock but most will enjoy their sport without unnecessary restriction
Incidentally if you have an accident while drunk in charge of a boat you can be done so all new laws will do is punish you because you might have an accident Des
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Old 08 March 2006, 09:54   #22
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....As to the question do we need laws to prevent the worst happening - its like everything - a few irresponsible people need to be controlled so everyone has to suffer an inconvenient law.....
Although I accept this is the current approach I'm not sure it is right, why should the majority suffer for the minority Des
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Scary Des, yes its an interesting one and as you say where do you stop.

Drinking would have impaired the thinking process and i think this is the first time on Ribnet this has been a topic for me, usually its kill-cord, life jackets +others

right i think i'm off to the pub in a bit
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Interesting debate...

I wonder what the penalties would be if you are caught in charge of a vessel whilst under the influence of alcohol?

But what happens if you anchor up for the night, have a few G&T's during which the weather turns nasty and you have to move the boat to a safer haven?

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Old 08 March 2006, 12:42   #25
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Interesting debate...

I wonder what the penalties would be if you are caught in charge of a vessel whilst under the influence of alcohol?....
Currently nothing specific for leisure users but I think that if you had accident, provided you were within coastal waters, they could do you using an existing non marine specific law. Des
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If im out at night I not only have full nav lights but a bloody 1 million candle power spot lamp looking where im going - no one is going to miss me comming.
How the fek is anyone going to be able to see after taking a blast of such a light in the dark. Equally irresponsible. Just abide by the rules.
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jwalker - use the force
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Old 08 March 2006, 18:16   #28
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How the fek is anyone going to be able to see after taking a blast of such a light in the dark. Equally irresponsible. Just abide by the rules.
Are you telling me having a spot light on my boat is irresponsible. I'm afraid we will have to disagree on that one - I think you are talking out of your arse. One million candle power is a standard 55W headlight bulb and you get 2 of those shining right at you every time a car drives past you at night - your eyes take about a second to re-adjust after a car has gone by. What are you talking about, irresponsible ??????????

There are many things in the water that are not lit at all especially in carrick roads where I do a lot of my boating. Unlit cardinal poles, huge mooring drums that they use to attach ocean liners to when they are laid up here, etc etc. not to mention the fishing and other boats. A spot light is an essential bit of kit to night boating in my book.
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Old 08 March 2006, 18:30   #29
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You could go a couple of hours with an inky dark night, then somebody shines a light straight at you, and you are fekd for a few minutes. Thats the difference being on the water and in a car!!
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I understand your point - I think a few minutes is a bit of an exageration but - if you are suggesting I give up the light - how do you suggest I find unlit obstacles on an "inky dark night" without it?
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