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Old 29 September 2013, 16:27   #11
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They're not fit for purpose. Pull the plug on them (no pun intended) before someone is injured or killed.
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Old 29 September 2013, 16:35   #12
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Is it just me or was the first and closest rib - very slow in actually responding or getting to the scene?

I do think however that the DUKW skipper did the right thing and immediately sensing a problem headed for the closest riverbank and as good as grounded it - so pax only needed to get a little wet and cold - - rather than drift off mid river.....

I do expect tho that MCA / LRA will say enough and call time?

The exceptional news in any case is just cold and wet people rather than injuries or worse.
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Old 29 September 2013, 16:47   #13
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Is it just me or was the first and closest rib - very slow in actually responding or getting to the scene?
Not sure which video you've watched. The video's I've seen the Yellow Ribs appear to have been responding rather than passing and taking time to spot a problem.

Cautious in approaching but there are people jumping into the water so he needs to make sure he's not gonna chew anyone up.

If its not that RIB then there is certainly a possibility that a passing vessel would first have been communicating with someone (CG, PLA etc) to get further assistance. Hitting the gas at that point will only make Comms difficult...
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Old 29 September 2013, 16:57   #14
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They're not fit for purpose. Pull the plug on them (no pun intended) before someone is injured or killed.
Lets ground all the old Spitfires and Lancasters while we're at it plus all the old bangers that break down every September on their way to Goodwood???
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Lets ground all the old Spitfires and Lancasters while we're at it plus all the old bangers that break down every September on their way to Goodwood???
The slight difference is no-one's using a lancaster as a tourist flight...
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Bad example, though you can get a ride in a Tiger Moth or a Stomp and old aircraft are often displayed and could crash and kill members of the public. There are plenty of vintage forms of transport that many people enjoy, take away the passengers and they rot away.
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we have the following two incidents as well

Marine Accident Investigation: Mistress Quickly

http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources...r_Beatrice.pdf
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Old 29 September 2013, 17:31   #18
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Lets ground all the old Spitfires and Lancasters while we're at it plus all the old bangers that break down every September on their way to Goodwood???
And cruise ships and for that matter Ribs as these have actually killed people where as these amphibious vehicles have had a full compliment of survivors from the incidents.
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This could be a tricky one.
The DUKW is a 70 year old piece of machinery- which will give rise to mechanical / engineering problems.

It is also an absolutely fantastic piece of engineering that cheaply solved a major logistic problem in WW2, and has been copied over time (e.g. Stalwart).

Is it a safe mode of water transport today? Well I was happy to take my family on it last year for a very different view of London, and the experience of driving in /out of the Thames as fantastic....although the lack of freeboard did give me a slight concern. - needlessly!

I think the solution is in proven maintenance -which my all my LGV vehicles have to go through and be 100% auditable. This is not cheap but is the price to pay for operating any vehicles - or boat - as I'm sure the trade members will agree is vital.

Let's not prejudge this - I would be very sorry to see the DUKW not live on in any guise through this incident. Will be interesting to see what MAIB make of this one.
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Looks like Thames Rib Experience ribs standing by ... so all credit to them (I have no connection etc.)
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