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Old 05 December 2013, 21:07   #21
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I have taken some poor google screen shots and a screen shot of some parking definition from gov site, so will post them, the ticket was issued by council.
Council enforcements are generally the worst as driven by money "cash cows". May have been issued via a camera or by a warden, either way will need reviewing.

I found signage generally is non compliant to regs, even things like white lines incorrectly spaced, not capped, not the right length can be challenged and you will have the ticket binned.

The wording and signage if not as per Gov signage is unenforceable- they need authority to change wording and layouts of signs

The ticket sent out to you is highly likely to be incorrectly worded, thats why scan and take out personal details and add to that forum and ask for help

Once you challenge the ticket within their set period the half price or discount fee has to remain until resolved. But if found against you the fine goes to max.

It takes a little effort, but in principle this looks like a bit of effort will secure your ticket being binned, dont take no on first letter, identify the faults and challenge every little detail. I found that there were nearly 40 faults on mine and the tribunal found in favour of me on the first one
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Old 05 December 2013, 21:30   #22
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it sounds like you have a reasonable case to ask for the ticket to be cancelled. Don't blame the traffic warden - how was he / she supposed to know? If you get the ticket cancelled, the system is working as it should. BTW you appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal (TPT), not magistrates.

We may demonise them, but traffic wardens actually do a good job keeping the traffic moving

Have a look at Aberystwyth lifts traffic warden ban in time for Jubilee after free-for-all chaos | Mail Online to see what happens without them.

I just want them to stop every one else parking to keep a space free for me
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Been done nine times for being over the lines in parking bays, seems if my car is taxed and I've made every effort to park responsibly they can't do much about it, I now park and take a pic, they tried boxing me in a car park in southampton because they couldn't get a clamp or a tow truck to move it, i called the police and told them i had a medical condition and they got the parking twats to move. I park in the same place now and they leave me alone
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Been done nine times for being over the lines in parking bays, seems if my car is taxed and I've made every effort to park responsibly they can't do much about it, I now park and take a pic, they tried boxing me in a car park in southampton because they couldn't get a clamp or a tow truck to move it, i called the police and told them i had a medical condition and they got the parking twats to move. I park in the same place now and they leave me alone
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It my car and its taxed and road legal so feck um
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Didn't you hunt down the jobsworth that put a ticket on your car and have a word?
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Old 05 December 2013, 21:50   #28
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Nope they've got the message, I have to park in the open car park up by the bar gate in southampton, it don't go in the multi storey
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From the very loose definition of "goods" as per the above link, I would suggest the definition of a Goods vehicle is even more vague.
From that, I would venture that most vehicles that are capable of carry large/heavy items, are capable of being used as a "goods vehicle", even if not taxed as that.
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This might help!

I think there are similarities between your circumstances and this successful appeal:

FightBack Forums > Goods Vehicle Loading Bay ticket, PCN code 23L - ENFIELD

It's extremely long winded and I got bored reading it so skipped to the bottom to see how it ended! Hope it helps.
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thanks for your comments I have just found out it is supposed to be to do with vehicles tax class, vans are N1 (goods) and passenger cars are M1,hence why warden photographed tax disc I believe that might be the final deciding factor
but I am still gathering info
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thanks for your comments I have just found out it is supposed to be to do with vehicles tax class, vans are N1 (goods) and passenger cars are M1,hence why warden photographed tax disc I believe that might be the final deciding factor
but I am still gathering info
Please use pepitoo B4 you rule out a challenge , regulars on there will give you best advice
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