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Old 02 July 2005, 18:19   #11
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I spent 12yrs in Nigeria some time ago so nobody need tell me about the corruption out there, I was also out there working a few years ago on a couple of occassions and guess what, it is a bigger Sh.t hole than it was before, NOTHING has improved at all. The lovely home we used to have there now has part of the roof missing and is in a right old mess, I don't miss it for one minute and think of all the wasted years working to try and improve their lives, all down the pan. It is a pointless task, they must do it for themselves, the mugs over here giving money out don't have a clue at all, all these people are giving their money to what they think is a good cause, but guess what, they are paying for the ego's of the CEO's and the big cash cow that soaks up their money. Look at the fancy adverts on the telly recently, all the good money is lining the pocket of the add people, but guess what they don't give a stuff it's not their money. Now the RNLI ....Ooops better not go there
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Old 02 July 2005, 18:50   #12
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Richard- I presume Madonna is going to explain to her children the meaning of the four letter word she used......... I am surprised she wasnt wearing her metal bra--

And Codders for the record I am disgusted with Bill Gates.. His foundation has given so far ... 0.00000000001% of what it earns in a day. What a
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Old 02 July 2005, 22:39   #13
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Richard- I presume Madonna is going to explain to her children the meaning of the four letter word she used......... I am surprised she wasnt wearing her metal bra--

And Codders for the record I am disgusted with Bill Gates.. His foundation has given so far ... 0.00000000001% of what it earns in a day. What a
hypocrite.

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Was thinking of bringing him up - it was bad enough Mcartney getting up on stage but when Bg himself appeared.........

Thw whole thing sickened me - most of them were only there cos it would have looked bad if they weren't!!!!
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Old 03 July 2005, 03:20   #14
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Seems to me that there are lots of Daily Mail readers here


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Old 03 July 2005, 05:22   #15
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I have worked for 18 years in Africa (or with African) countries Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya and South Africa. The corruption there is something you have never seen in your life! From the last stevedore in the port to the highest energy minister or authority in the country.

Their moto is: If you don't pay (and pay well) you don't get i.e. you don't get to move our aid cargoes, discharge them without problems etc etc! (same applies with Oil for Food program in Iraq, and all of those so called aid programs). The moneys that exchange hands runs into billons of US$!!


I have also co-operated many times with European (mainly Dutch based) companies that move aid cargoes around the World and they are the same.

Corruption is so big that there is no cure for it. Everyone knows it but no one does anything about it. PMs, presidents, ministers etc they are all involved in one way or the other in it

I do not know what Mr Geldorf or all these people think but I can assure evberyone that in my estimations only a very small percentage of the money they collect actually helps these poor guys in Africa. The rest goes to Ministers, War Lords, Police, Port Authorities etc etc.

BTW I have kept a lot of that data and some day I may write a book which will be very revealing.
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[B]Seems to me that there are lots of Daily Mail readers here

thank the heavens - you did'nt mention Janet Street Porter- i would have gone mad ......... Daily Mail - what's that?

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I liked most of the music, especially in the evening when we were down the pub.

I like the fact that most of the world is at least thinking about the issue

I worry that without the corruption issue being solved we will be giving our money to someone who does not need for deserve it
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When Snoop Dog is on stage wearing enough diamonds to pay for a whole village to eat for about 25 years, i decided this was a load of bollox.
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Tim the geog student says:

Frank's theory of dependancy says that a less economically developed country WILL ALWAYS be behind an MEDC when it comes to deleopment simply becasue they just can't work out how to do things for themselves; they are dependant on our ideas/technology etc. If this is true, it follows that:
-They are dependant on us we should be "guiding" them in the right direction.
-They will always be behind so lets just get on with our own lives and one day they will follow.

The general feeling here seems to be the second should be adopted. I am undecided....
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A lot of the countries had the guidance years ago and opted to do it themselves, most of the countries are an utter shambles, they will never change, they have survived so far, let them get on with it and sort themselves out. There seems to be a master plan somewhere to hold back nations like ours by piling in immigrants, this brings down standards and forces people to lower standards to their level. What about the nurses and doctors from countries like these being employed by the NHS, they should be back helping their own countrymen and women. I would also like to know why the vast majority of people from countries like these who come here to train and be educated then stay here and never return home, they should be using their skills and return home to give perhaps 5yrs to their country but no, they don't give a stuff.

Utter nonsense the lot of it, no wonder there is a mass of good honest people leaving this country to live abroad because they have had enough of all this, our country is being destroyed and it is criminal.
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