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Old 14 January 2009, 18:09   #1
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Now I never belive much I read in the media.

If there is any true basis to this story its pretty scary.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439604.ece
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Now I never belive much I read in the media.

If there is any true basis to this story its pretty scary.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5439604.ece
Very scary-but...
Somehow I doubt there's any point in them even trying it-real offenders will have a damn sight more security than the police can hack. Any decent firewall or anti-spyware will pick up malware and if they can hack WPA security they'll be sat outside for a long time doing it.

It takes a bit more than a police training course to get into a PC that's properly protected from even the usual malware and viruses on the web. Proper hackers are a lot more intelligent than the police-and are capable of earning a damn sight more than the police will pay.

I strongly suspect this is the usual case of someone clueless at the top making a decision on something they know absolutely nothing about.
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Exactly what Nos said. I've read private hackers forums at the invite of an associate, I wouldn't ever call her a friend. 99% of the content was beyond my knowledge. But what was plain to see was how clinical and professional they're approach was and they're knowledge of systems was amazing. It's a love job for them.
To try and train people to do that would be a huge task in it's self. But even then they would still just about be able to crack AVG.
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Very scary-but...
Somehow I doubt there's any point in them even trying it-real offenders will have a damn sight more security than the police can hack. Any decent firewall or anti-spyware will pick up malware and if they can hack WPA security they'll be sat outside for a long time doing it.

It takes a bit more than a police training course to get into a PC that's properly protected from even the usual malware and viruses on the web. Proper hackers are a lot more intelligent than the police-and are capable of earning a damn sight more than the police will pay.

I strongly suspect this is the usual case of someone clueless at the top making a decision on something they know absolutely nothing about.
Ahh but you have missed the point. It's NOT the real criminals this Labour Government are so terrified of - it's the man in the street - he could be doing some terrible things - like putting his rubbish out too early or funding terrorism by buying smuggled in ciggies!!!
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Using a program package like aircrack and injecting false packets into a WPA network it can be cracked in minutes rather than hours, computer mac address registered networks help but they are still vulnerable to a determined hacker/ bandwidth thief. This would allow access the hacked broadband connection and this has serious implications when used illegally by the hacker..........
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I agree wireless is full of holes.

Of course you could always encrypt your drives and data as well........
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If you've got nothing to hide then it's no problem except the Police have a habit of abusing any additional powers they are given
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If you've got nothing to hide then it's no problem except the Police have a habit of abusing any additional powers they are given

From my experience Its not you who needs to hide, its the person who hijacks your wireless connections then downloads illegal content or commits an illegal act (usually hacking/ attacks). They need to hide and do it at the cost of an insecure wireless network.

Recent copyright and peer 2 peer convictions have highlighted the problem above, they trace offenders through IP address's then prosecute. Their computer is checked and they have no trace of the illegal download on the hard drive.

A common problem is people who leave their wireless network on 24 / 7, when not in use switch it off, then the hacker will use another network. All in my humble opinion.
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Oh God do you REALLY believe that? Would you allow them to put a camera in your living room then?

I wouldn't trust this government with ANYTHING!!! Who would have thought they would actually snoop on people putting rubbish bins out or using DNA to check on whose dog has fouled the pavement. The list is endless - 1984 was spot on!!!
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That's true!
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