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Old 04 September 2014, 07:40   #31
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Staff are realy good & it's a lovely place to boat from but we pay 4k pa to keep our boat there & expect a reasonable level of security
And when things do go wrong you would expect a helpful approach to putting things right

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Old 04 September 2014, 09:01   #32
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I agree that the guy who does most of the launching at the Largs boat park is very freindly and extremely helpful (sometimes tries to be too helpful), however this does not seem to be the case with some of the other staff and the owner in particular. Kip is infinetley freindlier with all the staff being helpful. Its unfortunate that they dont do a similar baot park, however they have now installed dedicated rib/speedboat pontoons.

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Old 05 September 2014, 13:08   #33
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The ramp at Largs is great but I tend to go to kip as it's on the way to the ferry. Kip have really let their ramp go though as it was covered by beach and loads of seaweed the other week. Not an issue with a 4x4 but an estate car can struggle. There was also a couple of guys launching a trailer sailer and it was 45 mins before I finally went over and asked them to sort their boat out away from the slip. I was obviously in the wrong!!! My darling wife also came onto the trailer too fast hit the rollers all wrong panicked and went hard astern onto the rocks at the side of the slip.
Another problem with Kip is the chandlers as 3 times I have been let down with not supplying gear after ordering and giving me a bottle of 2 stroke oil with my 2 bottles of oil. I noticed as I was starting to pour it eek.
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Old 05 September 2014, 14:01   #34
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Vote with your feet!!!

I am pretty sure if the staff sunk the boat they are responsible to the owner. It would be the yards insurance who should pay out to the boats owner i.e. the third party.

If the circumstances are as outlined then..........

The definition of theft in Scots law means depriving the owner of the property or appropriation of the property for your own use is theft!!! I would be calling the police. The crime of vandalism might also apply....

I think that this matter needs recorded as a crime investigated by the police and probably reported to the Procurator Fiscal......

If I had anything to do with this yard I think I would vote with my feet and move on.....
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Old 05 September 2014, 15:31   #35
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Originally Posted by beamishken View Post
Staff are realy good & it's a lovely place to boat from but we pay 4k pa to keep our boat there
Which is a hell of a lot of cash TBH for renting a couple of square yards .. sure you get the launch service, but that doesent always go to plan as Ive already said .. and ... if the pontoons are over subscribed, which they were years ago, you've no end of trouble with who has moved your boat and re tied it, not to your liking, and also , how many other muppets have had to run over it, with all their kit just to get to their own boat ... no .. its not satisfactory .

Originally Posted by Backwoodsman View Post
I think that this matter needs recorded as a crime investigated by the police and probably reported to the Procurator Fiscal......

If I had anything to do with this yard I think I would vote with my feet and sue 'em.....

And your tractor guy was 'Neil' last time I used the place .. very helpful lad indeed .. be that as it may, I dont know who is directly responsible for parking the kit up and making sure its stored properly .. I think therein lies the problem .. collective abdication

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Old 06 September 2014, 02:02   #36
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Originally Posted by beamishken View Post
We berth our cruiser in Largs yacht haven & have several friends who also berth there & I assume probably a few ribnet members too
The marina offer a dry berth facility for boats up to around 30ft which is quite popular with ribs & smaller cruisers etc. Boats are launched by marina staff with a tractor.
Recently a member of staff was moving a 30ft motorcat towards its trailer when apparently one of the outboards stuck on wot the result was 3 damaged ribs & the motorcat perched across one of them. The marina staff decided to sink said rib to free the motorcat from it almost certainly writing the boat off

Yacht havens have told the boat owners to claim off there own insurers as they have to carry insurance as part of there berthing terms & have been totally unhelpfull towards the aggrieved owners
surely this cannot be correct the marina should be making good damage done by there own staff?*
Can anyone confirm the legal position?*
Whilst my boat wasn't damaged I'm obviously concerned that if it was then I'd be left claiming from my own insurers rather than the people who did the damage

On another note there was recently a sailing event taking place & the rear gate into the boat yard was left open from 8 am till 9 pm as the rear of the yard was used as a temporary camp site for the dinghy sailors. This meant unchecked access to the entire boat yard for all & sundry -result 7 outboards stolen in one week - Marina's reaction 'keep it quiet'*
How can they get away with it ?*
Anyone else had problems in a marina & is this typical?
I had an issue last year with damage done to my Rib while it was being put back into the dry stack, resulted in a bent A Frame, damaged GPS Anatane and some other damage. The marina identified why it happened and tightened up on their boat handling procedures, paid for all the damage to be put right and gave me a discount off this years dry stack fees which represented the amount of time I could not use my boat. Also included paying for the damage inspection by a marine surveyor. My insurance company were informed and were happy with me not claiming on the insurance as the marina was putting it right and paying so all was well. Several months later the marina is still using the improved handling procedures so I would say this is a good example of a marina that does do the right things. That being MDL Cobbs Quay Marina, highly recomended.

Incidently on the security side of things last year I arrived at around 5.50am one day to prep my boat for going to the round the island race the gates were locked across the marina and the marina has full cctv coverage etc. The marina complex also has some small industrial units so probably isnt that easy keeping the gates locked but they do manage it. Berth holders and others use a code for entry.

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