Land rover winch

[The Black Pig]

I'm thinking of getting a capstan winch for the front of my Landy
A nice addition to an old land rover might only use it once or twice but could be handy if I get stuck in sand on the beach one day
Anyone got one?

[mick]

Are you on Disco3 forum as Gareth had 1 on his series might be worth going on to ask
Or I can put a post up if you want

[Pikey Dave]

I used to have a SWB series 3 with a capstan winch run off the bottom pulley, great bit of kit & more useful than the modern drum winches imho. I wish I'd never sold the bugger

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by mick

Are you on Disco3 forum as Gareth had 1 on his series might be worth going on to ask
Or I can put a post up if you want

I'm on the military forum as I have a lightweight but the search only reveals two posts
If you can put up a post that would be good
Thx

[samt]

Originally Posted by The Black Pig

Anyone got one?

I have. I don't really use it that much to be honest.

[camelgas]

I have owned a couple in the past , as said above great bits of kit.

If you can find a complete aeroparts these days they are big money, faireys a bit more common but still not cheap.

I have been collecting aeroparts bits for a few years and have just in the last few months got a complete set at reasonable money

If you do get one: be aware that there are several different types of engine mounting brackets for the crank drive dog , 1.6/ 2ltr or 2.25 they are not interchangeable and are the proverbial hens teeth.

If you need any help with any info just shout and will try to help if I can.

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by samt

I have. I don't really use it that much to be honest. Attachment 108279

Hi


What are the letters on the capstan?

[The Black Pig]

"If you do get one: be aware that there are several different types of engine mounting brackets for the crank drive dog , 1.6/ 2ltr or 2.25 "


Thanks
Also different for the 3 or 5 bearing engines I gather

[samt]

Originally Posted by The Black Pig

Hi





What are the letters on the capstan?

M A P, Mayflower Automotive Products (I think?). Believe it became fairey winches.

Mine is filled with quicksilver high performance outboard gear lube!

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by samt

M A P, Mayflower Automotive Products (I think?). Believe it became fairey winches.

Mine is filled with quicksilver high performance outboard gear lube!

This is useful if you're interested in the history
Capstan Winches | LR Optional Equipment |

[Lee argyle]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

I used to have a SWB series 3 with a capstan winch run off the bottom pulley, great bit of kit & more useful than the modern drum winches imho. I wish I'd never sold the bugger

Enlighten me, I've had a capstan on a series and also owned, sold and used many,many elec and hydraulic winches over the last 25 years, but never found a capstan superior on any level to a modern winch - am I missing something?

[samt]

Originally Posted by The Black Pig

This is useful if you're interested in the history
Capstan Winches | LR Optional Equipment |

Thanks black pig! Thats some great reading.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Lee argyle

Enlighten me, I've had a capstan on a series and also owned, sold and used many,many elec and hydraulic winches over the last 25 years, but never found a capstan superior on any level to a modern winch - am I missing something?

Use just about any rope, of any length. Variable speed if you know how to use 'em. Not battery dependant, no heat issues when used over long periods etc etc.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Use just about any rope, of any length. Variable speed if you know how to use 'em. Not battery dependant, no heat issues when used over long periods etc etc.

Yup as long as the engine is running you can winch 👍

[camelgas]

Electric winches just look WRONG on a series.

The PTO drum winches are good but very big and heavy.

[Lee argyle]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Use just about any rope, of any length. Variable speed if you know how to use 'em. Not battery dependant, no heat issues when used over long periods etc etc.

Maybe not battery dependant but definably engine dependant!
Any rope? Not sure about that – as you know capstans utilise friction to grip the rope, friction = heat and combined with nylon / poly rope and long periods??? Your also are VERY reliant on a proficient operator and no ‘over-wraps’ which are great fun when there’s load on the rig. If your solo, your motors stuck and you need to ‘drive assist’ whilst winching that’s also interesting with a capstan………………………

Capstans have there uses but are old last century technology, engineering moves on, compact, powerful, braked, wireless winches running synthetic lines , when was the last time you saw a capstan fitted to a modern vehicle?

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by lee argyle

enlighten me,...... Am i missing something?

Originally Posted by pikey dave

more useful than the modern drum winches imho.

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[Lee argyle]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Use just about any rope, of any length. Variable speed if you know how to use 'em. Not battery dependant, no heat issues when used over long periods etc etc.

imho not 100% factually correct
Lifes all one big learning curve

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Use just about any rope, of any length. Variable speed if you know how to use 'em. Not battery dependant, no heat issues when used over long periods etc etc.

Originally Posted by Lee argyle

imho not 100% factually correct
Lifes all one big learning curve

So which bit is wrong?

[Lee argyle]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

So which bit is wrong?

All depends on your perspective............... Wouldn’t our days be boring if we all came to the same conclusions!! lol