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Old 13 August 2005, 18:35   #11
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Interesting point about fitting in a standard garage.

My (New Shape) lwb 3.2td Shogun fits in my garage even with the roof bars as long as you retract the door mirrors on the way in.

Trouble is you can't get out again!

I have to climb over to the passenger side to get out as I'm lucky enough to have a double garage, If I'm putting new pads or anything in I have to do one side then turn it around to do the other side.

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Old 13 August 2005, 18:51   #12
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Think you need a bigger garage
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Old 13 August 2005, 19:04   #13
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Perhaps you should go buy one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MODIFIED-LADA-...QQcmdZViewItem

Manos once said he loved these Lada's!
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Old 13 August 2005, 23:10   #14
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Those Lada's are actually pretty good off road - as are the old Suzuki jeeps - trouble is they are bloody awful on the road - make a Series III look civilised!!!
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Old 14 August 2005, 08:02   #15
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Dave, If you go down the Jap route, it might be worth having a look at the new Toyota Hi Lux. There is a company near me who import them & they really look the business "in the metal"

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Some relavent experience........

Dave,

I've had a Jeep Liberty (as Cherokee's are known in North America) for 9 mths now. Cant comment on the 2.8CRD is mine is 3.7L V6 petrol. I have the Renegade version with both fulltime and parttime 4WD, underbody protection, LS rear diff, rock rails and umpteen watts of roof mounted offroad lighting!

Positives....Its comfortable, looks good and the body feels well put together. Its a comfortable daily drive has performed well in the limited offroading I've done it in and has been great in the snow.

Negatives...Its bloody thirsty (14.5 Mper USG), in 14000kms I've had the front brake discs and onboard computery thing replaced under warranty. There is more transmission noise than I think is reasonable in the 21st century, although the jeep dealer here says its characteristic of the vehicle. (So obviously they go to the same school as Land Rover dealers! ). Oh, and the paint is coming of the plastic clipon wheelarches which apparently isnt covered under the warranty cos, you know I've been driving it on the road so its clearly my fault!

Would I buy another one? No, I have to say I wouldnt, but thats partly cos I would like something bigger but also due to the problems I've experienced with it. The only thing that would tempt me back into one here at least is that they now sell the CRD in Canada. Its about the only diesel SUV out there apart from the monster 6litre 1 ton trucks. With gas prices on the rise, it could be a contender.

Hope these rambles from across the Atlantic are of help!

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Old 14 August 2005, 12:43   #17
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Thanks Alan-the front discs seem to be a recurring problem folk have with new shape cherokees. As does the transmission.
That Hi Lux looks good. Last year the coastguard sent me on a 4x4 course despite having driven their 4x4s for the last twenty years and not lost one of em (well not yet anyway!). The course was at Wem (thought that was just the postcode when the joining instructions came thru-but it is a town), Shropshire. We did the course and the assesment in Hi Lux pickups-couldnt believe where they wanted me to take it-or the fact that me and it were still in one piece afterwards. An experience for someone who only usually drives 4x4s on beaches, and tries to avoid the soft stuff at all costs. I still try to avoid the soft stuff though-there must be a mound of paperwork to fill in if you lose a CG vehicle and you're certain to make the front page of the papers into the bargain!. Current CG vehicle is a Terrano-used to have landrovers but oh the problems we had! The Terrano has never had a fault!
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Dave,

I had a new Cherokee 2.8CRD LTD last year - I only kept it for about 3 months though.

I loved the Jeep image, and it was very quiet and comfortable on the motorway, but hard work on other roads. It does roll a little and "bounds" over undulating surfaces. I couldn't better about 23mpg with mixed running, so it is also pretty thirsty for a diesel. Although the build quality is not fantastic, the car seems durable, but you can expect a few rattles along the way!

I now have an X3 diesel, which I love and does a minumum of 34 mpg, whatever I do with it.

Please pm me if there's anything else you'd like to know.

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Take a look at the Toyota Hi-Lux Surf they seem pretty tough and are coming in as imports at a reasonable price.
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What about the Nissan X trail or Pathfinder?
Or you could spoil your self & go for the best & get a Disco 3
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