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Old 19 October 2004, 03:47   #11
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Old 19 October 2004, 07:39   #12
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Well done missus, Well done JK, Well done ads !!!!!! Careful examination of the featured add below this thread will show various opportunities to buy genuine Norwegion trolls. I really do find it funny that the UK's, nay the worlds premier internet forum has become merely an advertising assistant for Dodgy Norwegion dolls
Cool! The rather limited selection of RIBs ads were beginning to get a bit repetitive!

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He is definitely talking about malicious trolls (IMHO) who seek to do damage to others and not internet jesters
Genuinely malicious trolls are relatively easy to deal with on a moderated forum. The real trouble comes on usenet (news groups such as rec.boats) which is a complete free-for-all where flame wars can grow to epic proportions!
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Nope. It's just more troll food!

Don't feed the trolls!

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Old 19 October 2004, 08:37   #14
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There are lots of articles around which discuss all sorts of aspects of on line communities. Some better than others, but most apparently talking with complete authority!

The original article certainly has some useful content, but I don't completely agree with it (I do like the author's Internet Writing Guide though, and have posted a link in a separate thread).

The author of the aticle clearly has experience of running forums and on-line communities, but it sounds like he may have had a hard time. I particularly disagree that all trolling is malicious with the intention of causing real hurt or harm
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For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it).
This sounds like he's just a tad bitter. From what I have seen on usenet, mailing lists and forums over the years there are plenty of trolls who are simply inconsiderate or clueless rather than malicious.

He also says that Troll feeding can be acceptable:
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Next time you are on a message board and you see a post by somebody whom you think is a troll, and you feel you must reply, simply write a follow-up message entitled "Troll Alert" and type only this:

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.

By posting such a message, you let the troll know that you know what he is, and that you are not going to get dragged into his twisted little hobby.
This may deny the troll a total victory, but it's still a response which is better than nothing -- a small victory in it's own right.

My advice would be "Next time you are on a message board and you see a post by somebody whom you think is a troll, and you feel you must reply, just don't. Go and make a cup of tea, turn your PC off, do something else foir a while"!

For anyone who is interested, and has nothing better to do, there is another interesting article you might like to read called Communities Online: Trolling and Harassment

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The author of the aticle clearly has experience of running forums and on-line communities, but it sounds like he may have had a hard time. I particularly disagree that all trolling is malicious with the intention of causing real hurt or
I agree. I also think he was referring to malicious trolls which don't seem to survive (as their troll identity anyways) on RIBnet where trolls are well managed.

This particular author likens malicious trolling to road rage where people feel somehow detached from the object of their anger or otherwise troublesome urges. He does make a strong point about trolls' personae often being vastly different in the 'real' world.

Have had an interesting response from peeps to whom this area of awareness is perhaps still new

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This particular author likens malicious trolling to road rage where people feel somehow detached from the object of their anger or otherwise troublesome urges. He does make a strong point about trolls' personae often being vastly different in the 'real' world.



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Put the cider down

Can't imagine you being malicious

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What a fantastic thread and.......

.......having just returned from a Troll Convention in the U.S (I was a key protagonist don't you know) I find myself most pleased to see and read that the Forum remains, as always a very interesting place where subtrefuge, envy and rivalry are rife.

Boy it's good to be back, now does anyone actually have any comments on, eeerrr, what was it ? Ah yes, boating.

Oh and by the way, well said Louise.
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