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Old 19 January 2009, 16:45   #11
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I still don't think this will ever happen and if it does nobody will take any notice as its not enforcable.
Still, how fast does a FP boat go? I can certainly outrun the CG. If it came to it I reckon just running for it is the answer
I could say the VHF was switched off and leave them behind at a rate of knots, its not as if they will start shooting and the water cannon is only short range............
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Old 19 January 2009, 17:31   #12
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Personally I don't think it'll happen either...

Patrol vessel was around ( ) 30 kts and our boarding RIB could achieve well over 40 kts without struggling! The jet RIB was a bit slower - around 30 kts with a clean bum.

No water cannon and unarmed - despite what some people would have you believe (except the naval vessels of course).

Also the offence of obstruction - eg running away carries far higher penalties than the fisheries offence!

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Old 19 January 2009, 19:18   #13
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Joke suggestion - there is no way that anyone could possibly check boats in/ around the Solent on a practical level . Its carnage out there on a busy summers day !

The police cant even maintain a presence that stops accidents/ thefts etc - so I feel that someone fishing will be swiftly ignored for fear of generating days of pointless paperwork - all for the sake of 5 mackeral !
They don't need to. They just need to hang around marinas and slipways.

Besides, finding a boat that's fishing is easy if they want to do it.
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Old 23 January 2009, 05:29   #14
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we have been stopped out at sea twice whilst out in a small 17 ft hard boat ,both times whilst anchored up ,on the last occasion it was a farce as we had only just stopped and dropped the hooks in when a grey r.i.b. comes alongside and the officer askes if we had any caught any fish and he wanted to come on board to have a look as he has the authority blah, blah,blah , yes no problem we said .going on the fact the sea was very lumpy and that both boats were leaping about wildly and that getting on board a boat as small as ours with 3 people already in the cockpit would have been a bit silly ,well on the 5th try up he said ok ill take your word for it and they disappear into the distance ,
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Joke suggestion - there is no way that anyone could possibly check boats in/ around the Solent on a practical level .
They don't need to catch everyone; they only need to catch enough that there is a culpable risk of being caught. Once they reach that point, people start not wanting to assume that risk.

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I've always regarded Brits as being a nation of very level headed folk, but what could you have possibly been thinking in joining the EU lunatics in the first place?
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I've always regarded Brits as being a nation of very level headed folk, but what could you have possibly been thinking in joining the EU lunatics in the first place?
We were told it was a 'trade agreement.' It mutated. Successive governments have refused to hold a referendum on anything to do with it-probably because if the British public got their say we'd have left 10 years ago.

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I wrote to all of the Scottish MEP's on this. Most have responded - some more constructively than others. Interestingly one or two have bothered to point out that the European Parliament don't actually decide this sort of thing - it is up to the "council of ministers" when all the nations' fisheries ministers gets together to agree it. So if anyone wishes to voice concern they should write also to their MP (who has possibly some influence on the UK fisheries minister) and also to the minister himself.
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We were told it was a 'trade agreement.' It mutated. Successive governments have refused to hold a referendum on anything to do with it-probably because if the British public got their say we'd have left 10 years ago.
There is a lot of truth in this, no government in the last 25-30years has dared a referendum on EU membership because overwhelming I think the UK would vote for major limitations on EU authority within the UK or even possibly full extraction from the Union.
I certainly think the original ideal of a "clearing house" for Europe is a fine idea but don't want full EU integration as a Euro state or anything even remotely close to it.
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I wrote to all of the Scottish MEP's on this. Most have responded - some more constructively than others. Interestingly one or two have bothered to point out that the European Parliament don't actually decide this sort of thing - it is up to the "council of ministers" when all the nations' fisheries ministers gets together to agree it. So if anyone wishes to voice concern they should write also to their MP (who has possibly some influence on the UK fisheries minister) and also to the minister himself.
Yep. Might also do some good to write to Richard Benyon-shadow fisheries minister considering he'll be the one to inherit all this mess once Bottler Brown finally has to call an election.
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