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Old 05 September 2013, 12:34   #1
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Independent or RNLI? Coastguard not sure?

This reads badly for coastguard services- accept we only get a reporters view

Chris Vanstone: Scuba diver died after rescue was delayed by 20 minutes following a bitter row between lifeguards | Mail Online

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Yeah, no. We have RIBnet DOWN here!
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FTFY!

I can see why it MIGHT have been the right decision.

- fastest way to get casualty to hospital = helo.
- most appropriate boat to escort dive boat ashore = RNLI one if they were heading back to 'its base' anyway.

There's politics (with a small p) involved in voluntary organisations and smarter organisations might have approached this as a quiet discussion about 'lessons that can be learned'.
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I can see why it MIGHT have been the right decision.

- fastest way to get casualty to hospital = helo.
- most appropriate boat to escort dive boat ashore = RNLI one if they were heading back to 'its base' anyway.

There's politics (with a small p) involved in voluntary organisations and smarter organisations might have approached this as a quiet discussion about 'lessons that can be learned'.
Not like the Daily Mail to stir the pot in these situations....... Either way some poor soul lost his life and lessons should be learned and noted.
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I read it on line but now DM singled out- google searched and they are not the only ones reporting this issue, I would guess they picked it off local reports here-
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Irrelevant how reported, the fact is "Either way some poor soul lost his life and lessons should be learned and noted". Mine was not a politcal post just that someone died and now there was an arguement about how resourced. We are well covered on The Solent by independents and they doa great job and are used all the time instead of RNLI quite regularly
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It does sound like a bit of Empire Building there Poly. Mind you, it's a press report, so you have to take it with a pinch of seasalt. It's aMazdaing how inaccuracies can sometoms creep into copy.

Still, if you surface unconscious after a dive, you want to be heading directly to hospital, not just shorewards. A helo is the best option in this case, IMO. There is no-one on a diveboat able to call a death by drowning, so all parties will have had to proceed as though there was a chance of recovery.

As for the buddy, if there is any question of decompression sickness, they get treated the same way as the vic. In this case they went with the Lifeboat so it was probably just to get them out of the way. Any time one of my clients has died on site, I've always had more difficulty with their associates. The emergency services can be quite understanding and take them away too
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[QUOTE=C2 RIBS;567793]I read it on line but now DM singled out- google searched and they are not the only ones reporting this issue, I would guess they picked it off local reports here-
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Irrelevant how reported, the fact is "Either way some poor soul lost his life and lessons should be learned and noted". Mine was not a politcal post just that someone died and now there was an arguement about how resourced. We are well covered on The Solent by independents and they doa great job and are used all the time instead of RNLI quite regularly[/QUOTE]

I wasn't having a dig at you, more the DM has a style of reporting that doesn't sit we'll with me. You are correct in highlighting the biggest tragedy is the death.
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Irrelevant how reported, the fact is "Either way some poor soul lost his life and lessons should be learned and noted".
Even the Daily Mail article doesn't suggest that the outcome would have been any different if the Caister boat has launched:

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Although the delay was not the difference between life and death for Mr Vanstone, who could not have been saved even by the closer boast,
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