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Old 19 October 2013, 16:48   #1
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Ideas on personal locators

I have EPRIBS for crew /boats but I am looking for ideas on a personal locator (gps) to be carried whilst other one is out riding. She succesful was left in middle of forest last week and horse ran home leaving her to stumble back, phone signal vary so GPS seem a way forward

Idea please, Have looked at this one Spot 2 Tracker and Messenger

What else is about, not too bulky need to be pocket size or bumbag size. Ta
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A plb for life threatening injury and mobile phone / walkie talkie for the "bugger, the horse has run off, come and pick me up" moments

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A plb for life threatening injury and mobile phone / walkie talkie for the "bugger, the horse has run off, come and pick me up" moments

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Yep thinking that, the spot one has a non emergency button that texts a message via GPS , the phone signal on forest can be crap, If down and cant move then an emergency button. Just wondering whats about for this market really
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Is there really anywhere near you that has no mobile signal from ANY of the networks?

I ask as a 112 or 999 call will go out over any network. And isn't there a similar text system on the go too - text being more likely to be sent than a call connected.

FYI - satellite signals are often blocked by overhead foliage.
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You're either looking at a handheld GPS which will show her the way home, or a gps tracker which uses a phone signal anyway, so you're back to square one. If you're using iphones, the "motion GPS" app will do both and allow you to see each others location, but is still gps/phone signal dependant.
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Is there really anywhere near you that has no mobile signal from ANY of the networks?

I ask as a 112 or 999 call will go out over any network. And isn't there a similar text system on the go too - text being more likely to be sent than a call connected.

FYI - satellite signals are often blocked by overhead foliage.
we regularly lose a mobile phone signal on New Forest when away from main areas. I even have two boosters on loft for a couple of the net works
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You're either looking at a handheld GPS which will show her the way home, or a gps tracker which uses a phone signal anyway, so you're back to square one. If you're using iphones, the "motion GPS" app will do both and allow you to see each others location, but is still gps/phone signal dependant.
So looks like I need a satelite PLB then
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Spot uses satellite phone signal. So not susceptible to local phone coverage (not sure how it likes foliage) - something tells me spr is a reseller might be worth a chat. It has a subscription cost but the non emergency feature. Something like endomondo running on her phone would give a cheaper solution and show last known position even if no signal.

Did proper plb's get approval for on shore use in the end?
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Spot uses satellite phone signal. So not susceptible to local phone coverage (not sure how it likes foliage) - something tells me spr is a reseller might be worth a chat. It has a subscription cost but the non emergency feature. Something like endomondo running on her phone would give a cheaper solution and show last known position even if no signal. Did proper plb's get approval for on shore use in the end?

yes - jan 2012 can use PLB on land in UK

Spots 2 - I have sold around 150 of these devices in last few years.

great for what you want it to do. Mark Beaumont used one for cycling Americas and his event this year - I supplied it!

The SPOT2 has good GPS and uses sat phone network.

I have supplied large country estates and they come back for more!

Spot2 - 4 messages

1) SOS - life threatening
2) Help - I lost horse/ran out petrol but I am ok
3/4 I am ok - or your ok going to be late

The non SOS messages are updated via Website, that can have different contacts for different messages - might want to sent help to dad only but ok to mum and dad ! or vice versa.

there is a notes for device : Like I am hose riding, have type 1 diabetes , heart condition etc.

All the SOS messages get handled by private call centre GEOS who contact the authorities and you and event manage it - great if abroad they will only stop one person is recovered and rescue is over,

Hope this helps

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I sold these to be used by estate workers , forest workers , shotting parties, national parks and new energy companies doing hyro projects.

If you can get horse in the woods it's not that dense!

My brother uses for kayaking and I sold the DoE.

As like at sea - it's having the right tools to give you best chance if being found! and this might be radio , phone and spot2 or one off....

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Like I am hose riding, have type 1 diabetes , heart condition etc.
That girl needs to ease up
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That girl needs to ease up
One part of me feels sorry for her...

another part says we should meet
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Cheers Scott for this and pms, may still work for us rather than epirb , size is good and like message status as well as SOS ,
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Cheers Scott for this and pms, may still work for us rather than epirb , size is good and like message status as well as SOS ,
meant to say - leave it switched on for the duration of activity - picks signals up quicker in emergency.

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