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11 October 2008, 00:22
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
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Hot Smokers for Fish
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I carry a small portable radio on board (cost about a fiver  ) which is handy for a few tunes/news when the fish aren't biting - I use it quite a lot 
A lot better than George Michael via 100watt amp at nightfall in a quiet harbour 
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Ditto.Rarely use it though. Mine came free with the hot smoker from Askaris (fantastic bit of kit-try Pollack hot smoked with Alder and you'll never eat it any other way again)
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11 October 2008, 00:35
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Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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Sounds good - you wouldn't believe how many Pollack I've chucked back - decent size ones too, they're just so tasteless. An ex-fishmonger friend of mine recommended leaving them in the fridge for a 2-3 days before cooking, to allow them to mature. Been meaning to give that a go too.
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11 October 2008, 00:45
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: Swindon
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Sounds good - you wouldn't believe how many Pollack I've chucked back - decent size ones too, they're just so tasteless. An ex-fishmonger friend of mine recommended leaving them in the fridge for a 2-3 days before cooking, to allow them to mature. Been meaning to give that a go too. 
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www.askari-fishing.co.uk/
The smokers were on offer there at 15 quid a few months back-almost exactly the same as Force 4 sell for 50 quid (or everywhere else sells for 30...) but there's a minimum order of 30 quid so grab some 'free' tackle at the same time. Very good company to deal with-they even rang me to check it had arrived! Their website is playing up at the moment though-can't get into the shop.
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11 October 2008, 01:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Sounds good - you wouldn't believe how many Pollack I've chucked back - decent size ones too, they're just so tasteless. An ex-fishmonger friend of mine recommended leaving them in the fridge for a 2-3 days before cooking, to allow them to mature. Been meaning to give that a go too. 
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Well, that tosser didn't know wtf he was talking about!!
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11 October 2008, 08:37
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Town: Glasgow
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
www.askari-fishing.co.uk/
The smokers were on offer there at 15 quid a few months back-almost exactly the same as Force 4 sell for 50 quid (or everywhere else sells for 30...) but there's a minimum order of 30 quid so grab some 'free' tackle at the same time. Very good company to deal with-they even rang me to check it had arrived! Their website is playing up at the moment though-can't get into the shop.
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Cool - must give that a go .. I do like me smoked fish , but likewise I only ever used the buggers for lobster bait as they were deemed tasteless, but even restaraunts are selling them now  and you have to agree theres plenty meat on them .. so Nos.. Alder is the best ? .. have you tried anything else with them ?
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11 October 2008, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Cool - must give that a go .. I do like me smoked fish , but likewise I only ever used the buggers for lobster bait as they were deemed tasteless, but even restaraunts are selling them now  and you have to agree theres plenty meat on them .. so Nos.. Alder is the best ? .. have you tried anything else with them ?
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I have quite a range of different woods for it(Alder,oak,maple,mesquite,cherry and some smoking mix with juniper berries in I got from Askaris which is nice on chicken but too bitter for fish).
So far I've tried Alder,Maple,Mesquite and the smoking mix. Alder seems to be the best for fish. Mesquite works well too but a stronger flavour.Don't use softwoods as the resin apparently ruins the fish.
You need to brine the fillets before smoking them-I just chuck them in a clean bucket with 3 parts water 1 part salt for 20 minutes. You can add flavourings to the brine too-Lazy Garlic or Lazy Ginger and a bit of brown sugar work quite well.
The fillets need to be dried afterwards too-I'm lazy and just dry them with some kitchen towel til the towel stops looking damp when I pat the fillet with it but apparently it works better if you do that then air dry them in the fridge overnight. All the above is open to experimentation though. It sounds complicated but it's really not and the results are worth it.
It's very hard to make it taste bad as long as you don't use too much wood-a large heaped tablespoon is enough to do 4 decent sized fillets.
This is the smoker I have-runs on meths and can be used as a camping cooker too.
https://www.angelsport.de/cgi-bin/as...575&2E85&2E585
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11 October 2008, 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Don't use softwoods as the resin apparently ruins the fish.
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I can confirm this   . A chef I knew foolishly smoked a salmon using pine! I'd try to describe the flavour but, for once, words fail me. Don't try it!
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11 October 2008, 16:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Well, that tosser didn't know wtf he was talking about!! 
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Yes most people cant tell the difference between cod and pollack its just as nice.
James
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11 October 2008, 17:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I have quite a range of different woods for it(Alder,oak,maple,mesquite,cherry and some smoking mix with juniper berries in I got from Askaris which is nice on chicken but too bitter for fish).
So far I've tried Alder,Maple,Mesquite and the smoking mix. Alder seems to be the best for fish. Mesquite works well too but a stronger flavour.Don't use softwoods as the resin apparently ruins the fish.
You need to brine the fillets before smoking them-I just chuck them in a clean bucket with 3 parts water 1 part salt for 20 minutes. You can add flavourings to the brine too-Lazy Garlic or Lazy Ginger and a bit of brown sugar work quite well.
The fillets need to be dried afterwards too-I'm lazy and just dry them with some kitchen towel til the towel stops looking damp when I pat the fillet with it but apparently it works better if you do that then air dry them in the fridge overnight. All the above is open to experimentation though. It sounds complicated but it's really not and the results are worth it.
It's very hard to make it taste bad as long as you don't use too much wood-a large heaped tablespoon is enough to do 4 decent sized fillets.
This is the smoker I have-runs on meths and can be used as a camping cooker too.
https://www.angelsport.de/cgi-bin/as...575&2E85&2E585
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That smoker looks as good as any I've used for a fraction of the money and I was looking for one for the house
I must confess I've only ever used hickory, but I'm getting bored with that flavour now.
Have you tried just salting them, rather than brining them, thats even lazier and I find it works ok , I think this is only relavant to fish caught that day though, (as opposed to shop bought) it seems to accelerate part of the post mortem change that adds to their flavour, and despite the amount of 'juice' it takes out, when you leave them overnight in the fridge .. the fish doesnt seem to get dried by it too much, that said most of my smoking has been done with oily fish, so the rules might be different for pollack ?
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11 October 2008, 17:22
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I've only used ours for fish when we've been camping so not had the opportunity yet. The brine in a bucket is a nice easy way to do it 'out in the field' as it were.
Might give salting a go.
BTW, fresh sardines are amazing smoked but put something under them to catch the oil or it makes a hell of a mess in the smoker.
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