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Old 02 October 2009, 11:24   #1
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Help with Olympic issues.

Here is something for the lawyers out there!! I presently own domain name www.olympicribs.co.uk
and intended to develop this for the Weymouth and Bray events, BUT here is the mess which I have cut from the 2012olympic site on branding- This sets out what can and cant be used:- BIT LONG WINDED http://www.london2012.com/about/our-...-the-brand.php

"All of the official names, phrases, trade marks, logos and designs related to the 2012 Games and the Olympic and Paralympic movements (collectively referred to as the ‘Games' Marks’) are protected by the law in a variety of ways.

The following are some of the current items that make up the Games' Marks:
•The Olympic symbol
•The Paralympic symbol
•The London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic emblems
•The words ‘London 2012’ and ‘2012’
•The words ‘Olympic’, ‘Olympiad’, ‘Olympian’ (and their plurals and things very similar to them – eg ‘Olympix’
•The words ‘Paralympic’, ‘Paralympiad’, ‘Paralympian’ and their plurals and things very similar to them – eg ‘Paralympix’
•The Olympic motto: ‘Citius Altius Fortius’ / ‘Faster Higher Stronger’
•The Paralympic motto: ‘Spirit in Motion’
•The Team GB logo
•The Paralympics GB logo
•The British Olympic Association logo
•The British Paralympic Association logo
•London2012.com (and various derivatives)
How are the Games' Marks protected?
The Games' Marks are legally protected by a variety of means. Some are registered trademarks, and some have copyright protection.

In the UK special laws have been passed to give extra protection to some of the Games' Marks:the Olympic Symbol etc. (Protection) Act 1995 (OSPA) protects the Olympic and Paralympic symbols, mottos and various words.

Added protection is provided by the London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games Act 2006 (the ‘2006 Act’). This prevents the creation of an unauthorised association between people, goods or services and London 2012.

If you want to know more about these special laws, we have produced a detailed document providing information on them.

What can’t you do?
The unauthorised use of any of the Games' Marks (or any other marks or logos that are confusingly similar to, or likely to be mistaken for, them) is strictly prohibited.

For example, without the London 2012 Organising Committee's written consent, it is unlawful to use the Olympic symbol, the London 2012 logo or the mark ‘London 2012’ in the course of trade.

So they cannot, for example, be used on goods, in business names, on business papers or in advertising.

It is also unlawful, whether through the use of the Games' Marks or otherwise, to falsely represent any association, affiliation, endorsement, sponsorship or similar relationship with London 2012, the British Olympic and/or Paralympic teams, or any other part of the Olympic and/or Paralympic Movements.

When can the Games' Marks be used?
The Games' Marks can be used with the authorisation of the London 2012 Organising Committee.

Authorisation will only be given to official sponsors, licensees and non-commercial partners.

There are very few instances when the Games' Marks can be used without our consent.

The words protected by OSPA can, however, be used in editorial news pieces without our authorisation and journalists are, in certain circumstances, able to use our emblem etc to illustrate an editorial piece about the Games.

This exception does not however apply to businesses which produce newsletters, client bulletins or other marketing collateral.

Another exception applies to businesses which have traded under an ‘Olympic’ name for many years (pre 1995). The exception allows them to continue to do this.

There are a few other defences under OSPA and the 2006 Act. Further details of these are given in our information on Statutory Marketing Rights.

Do not use the Games' Marks unless you are sure that a defence applies to you."


I cannot for the love of money get an answer out of the 2012 Olympic people about using my domain name in a new website heading,(NEITHER CAN MY WEB DESIGNER) So lets see who on this site can point me either to an answer or to Seb Coe's e mail address!!!!
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My late father was an attorney here in the US.

When I was a kid, a Japanese company was trying to begin exporting fishing eqpt to the US. Their name?: Olympic.

Bottom line was that they were forced to change their company ID, and (I believe) ended up selling under the name "Penguin" (and no, I have no idea why they thought the names "Penguin" and "Olympic" would conjure up the same customer confidence.)

I'm sure your legal system is quite different, but apparently the IOC has pretty long arms.


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....and yet Olympic Airways and Olympic Holidays seem to trade? (And Olympicribs.com).

I would imagine you've picked a domain that you'll find difficult to use.

Penguinribs beckons!
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In the UK under Labour they are too busy making up new laws to bother enforcing existing ones.

Even big firms like Tesco and DHL seem to turn a blind eye to people ripping off their logos even after it has been pointed out to them - these days as long as people keep getting their pay they don't seem to actually care what goes on.
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http://www.olympic.com/

These seem to get away with it - they make paint!!!

And look at their logo..........
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These seem to get away with it - they make paint!!!

And look at their logo..........
But I wonder if they had operations before the date our 2102 team seemed to have protected which from the rules is 1995, as you said olympicribs.com exists.
I spoke with their office again on Friday but they were all away on a jolly waiting to see the IOC decision on location for 2016 olympics. So not one person in their offices to talk to me. They have my details again so lets see if they bother or if they are too busy on government outings
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A good few years ago before the London Boat Show moved from Earls Court I started up a web site www.londonboatshow.info which had reviews of places to stay and eat as well as maps with various transport options. It was a free site born from an observation that from year to year places would close or change hands leaving people dazed and confused.

I came under huge, I do mean HUGE, pressure from the British Marine Federation to hand the domain over to them. Of course I did...

... They did nothing with it, it expired and came up again as available and then someone else did something with it for a while.

The moral of this story is that no matter how nice it would be do not bother, they have too much weight.

PS For a while the .net version was an escort agency.
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Assuming the info from the 2012 site is correct (i.e. the relevant legislation does restrict use of the word "olympic" - which I can imagine it does) then clearly you are on some dodgy ground. And sods law will be they ignore you until you have invested the time and money and then they get shirty about it?

Presumably however there would be a possibility to license the legitiamite use of the name. I could imagine that being a/the official site for "spectator and support boats" would have some value? Interestingly at that point your opinion would presumably switch from "I can't believe how restrictive they are, I'm just trying to make some ecconomic gain from the 2012 event we are all sponsorring with our taxes" to "I'm the official olympic rib supplier - god help anyone else who might try to create an association with the event"

Interestingly London 2012 is protected - but Weymouth 2012 is not? So if you are quick you could register "RIBSforWeymouth2012.co.uk"?
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C2,

Assuming the info from the 2012 site is correct (i.e. the relevant legislation does restrict use of the word "olympic" - which I can imagine it does) then clearly you are on some dodgy ground. And sods law will be they ignore you until you have invested the time and money and then they get shirty about it?

Presumably however there would be a possibility to license the legitiamite use of the name. I could imagine that being a/the official site for "spectator and support boats" would have some value? Interestingly at that point your opinion would presumably switch from "I can't believe how restrictive they are, I'm just trying to make some ecconomic gain from the 2012 event we are all sponsorring with our taxes" to "I'm the official olympic rib supplier - god help anyone else who might try to create an association with the event"

Interestingly London 2012 is protected - but Weymouth 2012 is not? So if you are quick you could register "RIBSforWeymouth2012.co.uk"?
Clearly you operate on another level to me

I never saw the olympicribs domain name causing me an issue until we started to build a new site for it, Yes correct we were looking to generate work from the olympics and I had signed into their media campaigns and would be notified of all contracts going out on offer, but then I did not expect to see RIBs wanted for the events until maybe next year and many companies will be there. You may see the draft olympics website active sooner now as clearly Weymouth opens doors, excellent spot www.......2012 domain name now purchased through my accounts, became too focussed on sorting the olympicribs issue rather than as Polwart did, steppped outside the box.

update- Just checked search engines and ribs4weymouth.co.uk in the bag so may leave olympicribs and just handle new web pages onto this domain, will be interesting now if the IOC jump on this area , there are loads of similar ones but it means I should be able to run two web sites for rib charters etc at olympic venues and keep mine running but linking in which is what I planned a few years ago with olympicribs
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