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Old 10 December 2012, 10:44   #21
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I'm going for the i mac 2012 21.5 inch
Mine's bigger than yours nah nah !
I've got a 27 incher
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Old 10 December 2012, 11:41   #22
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Mine's bigger than yours nah nah !
I've got a 27 incher
I got told by the mrs I didn't need one that big as it would be sat in my home office where I already have two dell wide screens for my work laptop........ I need a bigger desk!
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Old 10 December 2012, 14:08   #23
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For what it's worth........get a Mac. If you go to an Apple store or third party shop like Curry's/PC Warehouse Apple dept. (they have their own Apple assistants ) the level of service and simple language is on a different planet.
For ease of use the Apple system is a no brainer next to PC.
Supplier backup and service is something that you don't generally expect in the UK.
The Macs are upgradeable and future proof........any extra cost now will be saved later.
Get any Mac laptop or desktop and you'll be over the moon. Get a terabyte or two of hard-drive and you're sorted for life.
The included iMovie software is actually good enough for pro shoots.
The are robust physically and are designed for pro use as are the aftermarket bits for them........properly real world designs not flaky tat to blow your money on.
Macs are logical in their usage and the op system fully integrated and totally intuitive.
They are biased towards the art industry and not the nerdy business end..........so they need to be easy to use by default!!!!
Their retina displays are the best and the computers are designed to be used on location so are substantial enough to cope with a bit of misuse.
Sound quality is great too and they look better.
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For what it's worth........get a Mac. If you go to an Apple store or third party shop like Curry's/PC Warehouse Apple dept. (they have their own Apple assistants ) the level of service and simple language is on a different planet.
For ease of use the Apple system is a no brainer next to PC.
Supplier backup and service is something that you don't generally expect in the UK.
The Macs are upgradeable and future proof........any extra cost now will be saved later.
Get any Mac laptop or desktop and you'll be over the moon. Get a terabyte or two of hard-drive and you're sorted for life.
The included iMovie software is actually good enough for pro shoots.
The are robust physically and are designed for pro use as are the aftermarket bits for them........properly real world designs not flaky tat to blow your money on.
Macs are logical in their usage and the op system fully integrated and totally intuitive.
They are biased towards to art industry and not the nerdy business end..........so they need to be easy to use by default!!!!
Their retina displays are the best and the computers are designed to be used on location so are substantial enough to cope with a bit of misuse.
Sound quality is great too and they look better.
I agree with all what Mr P says Macs are the dogs bo****ks .... So are land rovers
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Old 10 December 2012, 14:57   #25
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TonyT I thought you had logged off for the year! Are the withdrawal symptoms too much u need a quick fix!
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Hi

windows 7 and 8 is 64 bit so the memory issue is just a scare. if all you are doing is video and graphics macs are best but remember most of the world and other devices use windows and they are v v different.

If its for general use + video editing then its a PC or laptop.

Next memory is v v cheap. check for your self and look at how much an extra 2 or 4gb will cost you so dont be put off by buying a machine that has 4 or 6 Gb of memory.

something like this is fine:

if you dont have windows HP Pavilion G6-1344sa 15.6" Laptop - Intel i5-2450M 6GB 750GB HDD HDMI DVDRW W7 | eBay

as for i7 the extra money is not worth the extra power in percentage terms so unless you are doing loads and load of it then a few seconds wait will save a few hundred pounds.

Oh and before someone goes on about hard drive size you would get around 250-300 films on the disks of the above and your other applications and I dont think you will be making that many 1.5 hour films! yes you will have other stuff as well but please come back to me when you are even 50% full as hard disks are getting cheaper every day and it will take you a good time to fill the ones in the links above up!


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Ps I only have 20 years IT industry working for resellers infrastructure i.e. pc's , servers etc.
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TonyT I thought you had logged off for the year! Are the withdrawal symptoms too much u need a quick fix!
He's either telling fibs or he found his rubber comforter somewhere in Scotland.
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Old 11 December 2012, 02:34   #28
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For what it's worth........get a Mac. If you go to an Apple store or third party shop like Curry's/PC Warehouse Apple dept. (they have their own Apple assistants ) the level of service and simple language is on a different planet.
For ease of use the Apple system is a no brainer next to PC.
Supplier backup and service is something that you don't generally expect in the UK.
The Macs are upgradeable and future proof........any extra cost now will be saved later.
Get any Mac laptop or desktop and you'll be over the moon. Get a terabyte or two of hard-drive and you're sorted for life.
The included iMovie software is actually good enough for pro shoots.
The are robust physically and are designed for pro use as are the aftermarket bits for them........properly real world designs not flaky tat to blow your money on.
Macs are logical in their usage and the op system fully integrated and totally intuitive.
They are biased towards the art industry and not the nerdy business end..........so they need to be easy to use by default!!!!
Their retina displays are the best and the computers are designed to be used on location so are substantial enough to cope with a bit of misuse.
Sound quality is great too and they look better.

he is not a full time graphic designer. he does not need a terabyte of hard disk and even saying that he needs half of that would be like saying he needs 10 lorries to carry is lunch to work.

as for ease of use. how many people use a pc to a mac!!!! the number is not even close as the latest report says 17 -1. that means in simple terms for every mac user 17 other people can use a pc and yet you say its hard to use.

oh and the spec of the laptop I gave works well enough for me and I edit HD video for 1 hour per week and unless that became over 20 or so hours I will not be changing and mine cost 320.00 delivered.

As for upgrades. there are 1000's of component shops in the uk and hundreds on line and v easy to do so again your comment about pc's not being future proof sorry is rubbish.

as for how robust they are. again 17:1 ! so if the mac was that good and great value and that robust and easy to upgrade why is that figure so huge of pc users compared to pc.

as for screens well if they are good enough for over 94% of people then they are good enough for me.

last but not least why spend silly money when a laptop or pc will do the job fine for under 400.

There is far to much over selling of IT and is a real shame as people are getting ripped of every day and buying 1000 laptops and macs when they are simply not needed.

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There is far to much over selling of IT and is a real shame as people are getting ripped of every day and buying 1000 laptops and macs when they are simply not needed
IT, boats, cars, houses, holidays, toys ... and everything else you can think of.

Thank goodness for choice and each to their own.
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Confusion is approaching ( if not already here...)
Just to add more variation to what to consider...
If it's mainly for editing boating, skiing, waterskiing videos etc, don't forget anything over about 5 mins long gets tedious to watch, so your files won't be as big as if you are doing hours of full motion pictures!
It took me hours of cutting to get a week's skiing down to just 15 minutes of video - and the once a year I'm likely to do that length of watchable footage wouldn't justify a high cost machine (PC or MAC)

Also - if you go for a MAC and you're likely to want to run non-mainstream programs on it (like C-map's PC Planner navigation software) - you may find it's only available for PC's.
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