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Old 28 June 2007, 11:07   #31
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About the only readily available supplies I could find are from local chippies but they all use the solid block stuff - have you tried this and does it cause many extra probs???
I believe that it doesn't make any difference, you just get more glycerin out of it when it does its thing in the reaction chamber.

I also believe that some people bottle the glycerin, add a little bit of smelly stuff, and sell it as liquid soap. That might not work if you are using stuff from your local chippy... ...!!

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EDIT: Just noticed - if you can convert it for 11p per litre, there is an economic argument (but not an environmental one) to go and buy veggie oil from the supermarket at 47p a litre and convert it. Still cheaper than the pump - but more expensive than red......at the moment...
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Old 28 June 2007, 12:09   #32
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I believe that it doesn't make any difference, you just get more glycerin out of it when it does its thing in the reaction chamber.

I also believe that some people bottle the glycerin, add a little bit of smelly stuff, and sell it as liquid soap. That might not work if you are using stuff from your local chippy... ...!!

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EDIT: Just noticed - if you can convert it for 11p per litre, there is an economic argument (but not an environmental one) to go and buy veggie oil from the supermarket at 47p a litre and convert it. Still cheaper than the pump - but more expensive than red......at the moment...

47p per litre - ha ha! It's now up to 58p and climbing. I had a quote for 30,000L of the stuff and they couldn't beat the supermarket price!!! The demand is increasing fast - same with bioethanol in the USA - the price of corn products is going up so fast many people in poorer countries can no longer afford to eat - so that we can chuck the stuff in our tanks......
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Old 28 June 2007, 13:17   #33
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47p per litre - ha ha! It's now up to 58p and climbing....
Well, in my defence, it's been a while since I was looking at it......

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Old 28 June 2007, 13:46   #34
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Well, in my defence, it's been a while since I was looking at it......

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Not long ago it was 1.20 for a 3l bottle in Tesco - now it's up on 1.78 and climbing - I have also noticed the oil now looks cloudy so the quality is going down as well.
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I know of a few mates of mates who mix straight veg oil with normal diesel and have being running there vw tdi's like this for a few years, old merc diesels can,rumour has it, run on pure veg oil.

Wanna see costco round my way with the taxi drivers and 1000L of veg oil out of control well worth 25.

Google, yet again, is the answer, forums as detailed as this one exist although OGS seems to know the score though, just beware of the tax man w
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Getting the waste oil certainly is no prblem up here, most small pubs are happy to give it to you as many pour the stuff down the drain!!
There is certainly an increase in oil reclamation, many companies selling the 20l catering drums will insist on recovering the waste.... Take alook round the back of most pubs & you'll see an abundance of the stuff... liquid gold!
I've not tried using the solid oil from chip shops yet as it is too labour intensive for me, you'ld have to heat it to filter it in the first instance.
I have tried to react fresh clean SVO & the result was not as good as using WVO to make Bio.
The waste product Glycerin can be used to make soap as well as having enormous energy itself. A chap I know mixes his glycerin with sawdust & makes brickettes to burn in his wood burner... apparently they burn really hot & produce very little smoke! You can buy a boiler that runs on glycerin also!
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Different subject I know... but must tell all.
We also have a 6.2m Temptress & have put a Suzu DT 140 on her...
All faults have been ironed out & ran at 40mph on the river Avon at Stratford should have seen peoples faces... 5 mph limit.
Will take her home to Calshot on Sun & blast up to Yarmouth for lunch
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Different subject I know... but must tell all.
We also have a 6.2m Temptress & have put a Suzu DT 140 on her...
All faults have been ironed out & ran at 40mph on the river Avon at Stratford should have seen peoples faces... 5 mph limit.
Will take her home to Calshot on Sun & blast up to Yarmouth for lunch
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Please do NOT buy biofuel unless you KNOW it has come from waste cooking oil.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6252594.stm

Sadly we won't have much choice with the EU forcing it on us!!!
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Old 29 June 2007, 11:58   #40
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Please do NOT buy biofuel unless you KNOW it has come from waste cooking oil.
Makes sense, with SVO getting so expensive, there isn't an argument for not using WVO any more, financial or otherwise.

SVO requires acres and acres of ground, and isn't environmentally friendly, where WVO is 100% recycled oil, any additional env. issues coming from the conversion process. Anyone know what the green credentials of that bit of it is?

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