Gmt

[bogib]

Welcome back to ICELANDIC time

Bogi

[TonyC]

still got half an hour to go

rolls back at 2am

[bogib]

Shite.... ok you are about then

Don´t run to fast you all will gain an hour we will never get

Bogi

[The Grocer]

I've never been able to understand the logic behind this whole summer time thing.

1) GMT/UTC whatever (I'll ignore the atomic niceties, which let's face it make no difference whatsoever to Mr. J. Public who gets his time check from a flawed system - DAB radio is out by n seconds) is historically based on the the 0 degree E/W line at Greenwich, so at noon in winter the sun is due south. It should, in my humble opinion, be in the same position in summer. This would allow me to use Ailsa Craig as a sundial all year round.

2) We floaty types (and if you're reading this you must be one of us) refer to GMT/UTC all year round. The tides don't suddenly rush in or out in March or October to allow for cows being milked.

3) If you want an extra hour of daylight, either get up an hour earlier or stay up an hour later as appropriate. Just don't rattle my door on your way past. There's still the same amount of daylight on any given day of the year as there always was/is/will be - and yes, I'm ignoring the gradual slowing of the earth's orbit velocity. Will that affect you in your lifetime? Didn't think so.

4) All this stuff about road safety is rubbish - you're just as likely to get squished in the dark at either end of the day. Carry a torch if you're that worried. Or hibernate.

5) If you really care that much about daylight, move to the equator. 12 hours a day, every day, all year round. If like me you live above the 55 degree line - tough luck. Did you hear about the eskimo girl who slept with her boyfriend? Next morning she found she was 6 months pregnant...

And with that thought - g'night all.

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by The Grocer

I've never been able to understand the logic behind this whole summer time thing.

1) GMT/UTC whatever (I'll ignore the atomic niceties, which let's face it make no difference whatsoever to Mr. J. Public who gets his time check from a flawed system - DAB radio is out by n seconds) is historically based on the the 0 degree E/W line at Greenwich, so at noon in winter the sun is due south. It should, in my humble opinion, be in the same position in summer. This would allow me to use Ailsa Craig as a sundial all year round.

2) We floaty types (and if you're reading this you must be one of us) refer to GMT/UTC all year round. The tides don't suddenly rush in or out in March or October to allow for cows being milked.

3) If you want an extra hour of daylight, either get up an hour earlier or stay up an hour later as appropriate. Just don't rattle my door on your way past. There's still the same amount of daylight on any given day of the year as there always was/is/will be - and yes, I'm ignoring the gradual slowing of the earth's orbit velocity. Will that affect you in your lifetime? Didn't think so.

4) All this stuff about road safety is rubbish - you're just as likely to get squished in the dark at either end of the day. Carry a torch if you're that worried. Or hibernate.

5) If you really care that much about daylight, move to the equator. 12 hours a day, every day, all year round. If like me you live above the 55 degree line - tough luck. Did you here about the eskimo girl who slept with her boyfriend? Next morning she found she was 6 months pregnant...

And with that thought - g'night all.

I'd agree-but those of us who don't get to set our own start times in the morning get quite screwed over by it.

[The Grocer]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

I'd agree-but those of us who don't get to set our own start times in the morning get quite screwed over by it.

Why though? It's a natural phenomenon. Surely any resulting stress is brought about by the sudden change twice every year; whereas if we just let nature run its course we'd probably gradually adjust to the situation - as we do for all the other days in the year.

As Scottie may have said - "Ye cannae mess with the laws of physics, Cap'n".

[willk]

Originally Posted by The Grocer

There's still the same amount of daylight on any given day of the year as there always was/is/will be - and yes, I'm ignoring the gradual slowing of the earth's orbit velocity.

i c wut u did there - Nicely Cod-proofed!

[Polwart]

Originally Posted by The Grocer

This would allow me to use Ailsa Craig as a sundial all year round.

to be fair there is a very significant ingredient in that idea for most of the year

4) All this stuff about road safety is rubbish - you're just as likely to get squished in the dark at either end of the day

Actually the evidence (http://www.ajph.org/cgi/reprint/85/1/92.pdf) seems to suggest otherwise.

Someone once told me it had nothing to do with safety though - and was economically driven as we go to spend money in shops more if its daylight... not sure if that still applies when we buy stuff frrom behind a PC or in 24 hr tescos...

I haven't given much thought to this, but it strikes me that the effects of days shortening are so much more significant up north than down south that one (or both) of us are compromising with a system than moves 1hr twice a year... i.e. we have the inconvenience of moving but don't actually get all the benefit as it still gets dark in the afternoons a few weeks later etc. Perhaps Mr Salmond would support a new timezone?

[JSP]

Didn't it all start off with farmers wanting lighter mornings in the winter months? And then it was kept on for other reasons.

[chewy]

Originally Posted by JSP

Didn't it all start off with farmers wanting lighter mornings in the winter months? And then it was kept on for other reasons.

Thats what thought, it was the Scottish farmers wasn't it?