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Old 18 June 2006, 17:42   #1
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Frontera 2.0 sport

Is this a good vehicle to tow with? Needing something asap, It needs to be cheap as it will be a second car. There is one in the autotrader..... M reg, swb, 88k for £950. What do you think? Is there anything I should look out for? Will this get me out of the water and back up the beach? Thanks.
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Old 18 June 2006, 17:44   #2
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it will but it'll be awfully expensive to run.

Try and get the 2.8 diesel-Cheaper to run than the petrol 2 litre.

Look out for dodgy electrics.


Here's a 2.8 that was on ebay-you could always try contacting him...it's been relisted twice so you might get it cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=4647092512
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Old 18 June 2006, 17:56   #3
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Would only be using it at weekends so petrol mpg not too much of an issue. Is the 2.0 quite guttsy then?
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Old 18 June 2006, 19:32   #4
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Check out gearbox in all ratios , I would rather have the petrol on one that old , cheap and easy to fix . Thos old 2.8 diesels cracked heads for a pastime I believe
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Old 18 June 2006, 20:00   #5
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The 2.8 diesels are the bombproof Isuzu lump. It's the 2.3 diesel like my old one you need to stay away from-it's the old Bedford CF van engine and it's crap and eats heads(Maybe thats the one Ian means?). I'm not sure if they fitted it into the Sport version or not.

If you aren't going far a petrol will be fine but diesel engines have loads of low-down torque so you don't even need to use throttle to pull up a slipway-just use 4x4 low range and take your foot off the clutch. It makes it so easy and on slimy weedy slips it's a lot easier to control wheelspin.

The best setup is the manual locking front hubs (less to go wrong) but before you buy as Ian says make sure all the ratios are working properly. Try and make sure the auto-locking front hubs are working properly too if it doesn't have the manual ones. If they are working it'll feel odd in 4wd hi range-if they aren't then it'll drive like a 2wd when in 4x4 high range-or make a LOT of odd noise.


The 2.0 petrol WILL be thirsty. It's a car engine in a body that weighs nearly double the cars weight with less aerodynamics. I think the early 2.0 ones were cavalier engined-the later 2.2i were vectra (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) Fronty sports are great fun to drive though
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Old 22 June 2006, 13:13   #6
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You cant go wrong with a Fronty !

I've had 2, the first one was on a P reg, got it with 35000 in it and had it gas converted. Finally traded it in with 117000 miles on it. Terrific work horse, good power to weight ratio. I took it to what i thought was an easy off road place called langdale quest, and it turned out to be awesome. i thought I was going to end up trashing the car. Got round, no problem, no damage and it earned my (enormous) respect.
I would avoid Pre '96 (P) reg models - they have the sprung leaf suspension, Models from '96 onwards had the upgraded suspension with springs etc. All of the 2.0 - 8 Valve engines are going to be thirsty, it cost me about 17p per mile when I did the calculations pre gas conversion. 9.9 p afterwards.
Just traded in my second one on a R reg, which I bought last winter as another work horse. Had all pre MOT's, history etc and 57K on it. That was £1500. There are plenty about and in decent nick.
I've had a Long Wheel Base Nissan Terrano 2.7 SE Touring (Diesel) in between and flogged it for the new shape 2.2 16 valve petrol Frontera Short Wheel base. The diesel engine was great, but the nissan on a V (2000) was dogged with electrical problems, turbo meter went amongst other things.

You wont go far wrong with a Fronty, they're tough, cheap, cheerful and fairly easy to fix - Just go for one with some history and avoid the pre 96 models. (Apaches & Niagara's are the Special Edition Models and are a bit nicer)

Use the auto trader website and do a national search, if you're prepared to travel for the right car, you'll get a decent motor on a cheap deal.

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I love my Fronty. As with most vauxhalls they are underated.

I would like a bigger engine sometimes then I think how much the fuel would cost me. In low ratio they pull awesome and I should imagine if you beefed one up it would be quite an off road machine.
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I love my Fronty. As with most vauxhalls they are underated.

I would like a bigger engine sometimes then I think how much the fuel would cost me. In low ratio they pull awesome and I should imagine if you beefed one up it would be quite an off road machine.

Mine's actually quite cheap to run with the 2.8td in it. I was surprised.
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Just back from lookin at a P reg, 86k, swb frontera 2.8tdi. Really liked it, think il go back tomorrow and buy it. £1475. What do you guys think?
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As long as there's nothing wrong with it then grab it quick before someone else does.
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