Originally Posted by mick
BTW what's a Ssangyong 🙈
I thought you boys were into your engines, and thought you yorkshire boys were into your bargains...
SsangYong are a Korean car manufacturer of 50+ years. (South Korean before you ask). They very nearly went belly up about 5 years ago and were bought by one of the Indian Groups. They used to use Mercedes Blocks that they then did stuff to. They now make their own blocks. They have a pretty limitted range of engines, and have made a conscious decision not to drive down emissions by driving down engine power - so their standard engine is a 2L diesel, compared to the increasing trend to have 1.2-1.6 diesels.
When they came back from the Indian bail out they got an Italian designer in and he's not done too hideous a job (on mine at least). The basic spec is fairly high.
I've got a Korando 2.0L Diesel 4x4 like this: (very similar size to a Nissan Quaschi) SsangYong Korando The New 4x4 Crossover Car, SUV UK
with the touring pack (roof bars, front fogs) and towbar (free if caravan club member - 13pin electrics which fold out the way when not in use, removable bar - although I think that was my Dealer upgrading the 'free' package). Weighs in at 2.3T loaded. Has a towing capacity of 2T. (Although I have a silly licence so I'm capped at 1.2T :-( ) Cost £16,500
Very pleased with it.
Has a completely unlimited 5 year warranty (by unlimited it obviously includes all the usual exclusions like tyres), but lots of the 5 year warranties have extra exclusions after 3 years or mileage limits. I do close to 100k in 5 years so I'd probably have been OK, but why do some not even trust their alternator after 60k.
Couldn't get anything else with that power close enough for money. Could get smaller (allegedly more economical) Crossover SUVs for similar money. Was specifically looking at a Mokka. Boot space was smaller. Power was less. Economy supposedly better. Dealer x 2 - both rubbish. Trying hard to fill you full of extras (gap insurance, chip and alloy insurance, pain protection coating). Couldn't answer questions. I knew more about the car from the internet than they did. Told me options not available anymore that Vauxhall since have been actively marketing, told me they don't do factory/dealer towbar - just get the local towbar company in to fit it for me. Couldn't tell me the cost of that... ...need I go on?
SsangYong man was like chatting to my dad. Very low pressure sales, very honest - asked him about things and he was honest about things that aren't 100% perfect like fuel consumption/emissions. He told me about the Caravan club free towbar. I wasn't a member, became one, supposed to be a member for 3 months - they said they'd find a way ;-). Offered me a car overnight to try. Something went wrong arranging that so popped into the dealer to re-book. He basically chucked me the keys and said "you will be back before 6 tonight wont you?" Off I went. No salesman with me.