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Old 13 June 2012, 04:49   #21
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A bit OT I saw a sticker on the back of a comercial van from a national company with a "THIS VEHICLE IS LIMITED TO 70MPH" sticker the other day, what is that about.
Sign of the times (pardon the pun). It's to advise impatient motorists it cannot go any faster!

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Old 13 June 2012, 09:36   #22
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i find a lot of lonely / men old enough to go through the change, share this narrow opinion
my view is that if it wasnt about the money, then offenders would be made to spend a saturday morning out sweeping streets etc instead.
But they do get offered speed awareness courses as an alternative to a big fine - a Saturday spent being educated on the issues and (hopefully) realising what a selfish Pratt they were. By all accounts it is humbling and not an easy way to avoid a fine.

Btw, I am a few years away from The Change! Lonely? Well, I have lost a few friends to stupid accidents - and had a few myself.
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Old 13 June 2012, 11:12   #23
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I was listening to radio 2 about this today and see both sides of the argument.

There was a recent case of a motorbike who hit his brake hard on the main road out of Bournemouth as he suddenly saw the van by the side of the road ( its a wellknown spot) .

In braking he lost control and died and while he was going at a good speed over the 50 limit ( something like 80+ if I recall) a flash may well have slowed him down and saved his life .

On the flip side at 80+ he could easily have killed someone else .

Just an example and maybe unlucky as the guy was on a bike where he had no protection. It happens all the time in cars too , but with less serious results.

Hard to say whats right and wrong ........
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Old 13 June 2012, 11:28   #24
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I've done the speed awareness course (was doing 37 in a 30) and TBH it wouldn't stop you speeding again. Nowhere near as "harrowing" as I expected but very informative in regards to the stopping distances etc extra speed creates.

I took the course to avoid the points. That was 3 years ago and I've not been caught since. I say caught as I'm not stupid enough to claim I've not gone past the limit again. Point is if I choose to do that I have to accept the consequences of those actions. Such is life.
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If speed cameras/traps etc are effective, then why do people still speed ??

In my opinion the majority of people caught by speed traps are not prolific offenders but have just had a lap in concentration which we all do, (aint that right Pikey) it's then 3 points and a fine.
It's the racing uninsured n*b heads that are from the area and know the speed camera locations that get away with it. When we see one of them, we all think where are the police now when we need them.

It's defo a money making exercise.
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That's my point. They are to well known and adding the help of flashing lights to warn doesn't help with that. They should be able to hide them well away, at the end of the day if your not speeding it won't matter if they are seen or not and if your not concentrating you shouldn't be on the road in the first place!

Everybody knows you will get a ticket if you overstay your parking ticket allowance, some accept the fine if they lose track of time or wasn't concentrating, you don't then complain that nobody warned you, or that it's a money making scheme. What's the difference (other than it potentially saving a life)
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The only time I have been stopped for speeding (and I have been known to have a heavy right foot) I was asked what the speed limit was and why I was driving faster than it.

"I thought I'd get away with it and I considered that I wasn't increasing the risk to myself or any other road user."

That honest answer (I'd be rubbish as a crook under interrogation) saw me being told to 'go carefully but more slowly in future'. It must be galling to ask the same question fifteen times a day and be told

"Sorry, I don't know what the limit was..."
"Was I driving faster than 30?"
"I needed to go to the toilet.."
"I was listening to Meatloaf and got carried away..."
"I dunno like..."


and have to peel bits of people off the road during the same shift.

I can't remember who suggested we should all drive cardboard cars with a big spike sticking out of the steering wheel and against the driver's chest, but he or she was probably right.

Equally, its the **** who speed up the River Arun much faster than the 6.5 kt / 'no wash' limit who wind up the sailors into an anti-powered boat enmity and cause there to be a speed camera and CCTV. Its not difficult to be considerate; its easy to be anti-social.
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That's my point. They are to well known and adding the help of flashing lights to warn doesn't help with that. They should be able to hide them well away,
I thought this was about cars flashing there lights but sticking flashing light on the cameras
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I've just got home form a speed awareness course today(36 on a 30) and feel completely differently about this now, funny thing was I got flashed by a BMW on the way and round the corner was a camera van.

You have to ask your self what makes you obey the speed limit, the fear of getting caught and a fine or the fear of killing someone, mine was the fear of being caught but I do feel differently now.

If people are speeding in a community and you warn them to slow down to avoid getting nicked, they then speed through your community and endanger your kids then you have wonder if you did the right thing be flashing them.
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There is a lay-by near Brighouse and often a camera van in it last year I parked behind it blocking it view whoops
And once had to move a traffic car on with a radar gun as I needed to park where he was.
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