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Old 03 October 2005, 07:07   #21
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I'm sorry but You can't do all the dive's in one day, not even if the water is warm. PADI standards says that you can only complete a maximum of 3 open water dives a day. And the Standards of the OWD tell you that you have to use 2 days of openwater training. Each dive lasting more than 20 min.

I don't have the PADI manual here at work so I don't remember the depth of the 4 dives. ( I will look into this if anyone want's to know.


The quote about diving within you own limits is spot on, and goes for all levels. If you are not sure about the dive, say so....

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Oops ok I stand corrected
I know when I done mine it was in a UK lake & it was 2 dives on Saturday & 2 on Sunday, but I have been informed by many people that they did all their qualifying open water dives on the same day while aboard.
Unfortunately there are a few unscrupulous operators at holiday resorts trying to get as many people through in the minimum time to make as much money as possible, after all why get £250 from each punter in 4 days when you can get it in 2?
Please donít think they all operate like this but please be aware some do & they are the ones to avoid at all costs they give the sport a bad name.
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Old 03 October 2005, 08:46   #22
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Before somebody ask me about this I might just correct something.

Off course the Padi Standards don't tell you how many dives you can do in one day....

What they state is that you can only do 3 Course (educational) dives in one day.

If you after your 3 dives during a course, want to dive more, you can do so (of course), but they can't count towards any certification.

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To Train the BSAC way you do not have to join a club and take months, there are BSAC schools out there that will train you over a few day's. You can then join a club and build up your experience. Personally I joined a club and took my time enjoing the diving and learning at the same time. It has taken me 15 Years to reach BSAC Advanced but I have enjoyed every minute of it. The BSAC Club way may "fit in" with your life style as we all have other lives to lead.


Which ever agency you choose enjoy it!


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Jono,

In answer to your question;

PADI - A professional body of diving schools and instructors

They will instruct with kit provided in a more intense way (takes less time)
Widely recognised world wide
After qualification you dive with others but there is no club structure

BSAC - Amatuer club that instructs at schools or locally with clubs


Takes as long as as it takes depending on club
Some clubs have kit to loan (ours does but trainee stands service cost if loaned for a year say)
Annual membership can be as much as or as little as one PADI course (depends which one)
Will provide social structure and diving beyond qualification
Now not as widely recognised as PADI.

Summing up if you were to put both dive manuals side by side the are more similarities than diferences. Both are good if taught proficiently and the student takes it all in.

Our club takes a lot of PADI divers now and they basically reasonable divers who need more experience. There is a short cross over course, most feel that membership is good value for money.

If you start hearing a liturgy of the failings of one training agency or another simply switch off and walk away unless you need to waste time. There are lots of positive examples of both agencies.
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Old 03 October 2005, 11:39   #25
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I'd go for PADI if I had to go through it again. I did BSAC 20+ years ago, took around 13 months because the lecturers kept failing to turn up. Got sick of the amount of lengths I swam with bako foil on my mask, simulating a night dive!

Take a holiday somewhere warm, do the PADI course then crossover at your local club if you get lonely!

You could even do a resort dive first to see if you like it.
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Ah Dirk the good old days;
when men were men and women were just waiting to be spoiled!

I'd reccomend training here whatever you do, then if you decide to holiday abroad your straight into the good stuff not pootling about in a pool doing the same thing but being charged an arm and a leg for it, all be it in nice surroundings.... then theres the bikini clad totty draped about said pool and possibly using the same pool more than likely in the flimsiest of garments...plus the pool bar....

(might have to revise my previous statement)
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Old 03 October 2005, 12:26   #27
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Not to sure about the good old days, but it sure was fun. Nowadays i only do resort dives, equipment has changed so much since I started that it's nice to do a familiarisation in the hotel pool, followed by a 2:1 dive with instructor and fellow novice.

Plus you get to crack a smile when the instructor tell you you've got the hang of it much quicker than most beginners do.
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I have heard That to be BSAC diver the most important dive equipment is set of spanners crowbar wrench gas cutting torch club hammor for those wreck dives
I wrote this purely as a bit of humour and DGR is right a BSAC muppet does look the same as a PADI muppet
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Those are great photos Andy


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Mixed gas closed circuit rebreather with side slung decompression stage. The Rondo is 48.6m at which depth decompression quickly builds up. By increasing the oxygen / nitrogen ratio the nitrogen is off gassed more quickly allowing the diver to surface sooner. The rebreather allows the oxygen to be recycled reducing the quantity you need to carry. However its a major investment in training and equipment but the good news is that without paper qualifications you won't even get the cylinders filled let alone buy a new one or step on board a dive boat and long may it continue.


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Oh great what a change asomebody talking about fkkn Diving.....I am surrounded by the bstads and now its on Ribnet.Sacre Blue!

If your not careful I'll start boring you with the spec of the boat I drive.

For starters It got 12 full cylinders of Nitrox in the fromt end!
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