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Old 20 March 2006, 15:15   #41
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Seen a few - most have Hill Descent, one has central diff with lock. I'm not off roading - just towing & launching - what do you reckon is more useful? As I'm not climbing over boulders will I notice the difference?
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Old 20 March 2006, 15:22   #42
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Seen a few - most have Hill Descent, one has central diff with lock. I'm not off roading - just towing & launching - what do you reckon is more useful? As I'm not climbing over boulders will I notice the difference?
I have a td5 es, you dont need the bits, ours has them and never need them to be honest unless in extreme conditions, it is auto and will pull anything up a slippery slipway on stone or concrete.

landys have problems but are relatively easy/cheap to fix
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Old 20 March 2006, 15:54   #43
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I have a td5 es, you dont need the bits, ours has them and never need them to be honest unless in extreme conditions, it is auto and will pull anything up a slippery slipway on stone or concrete.
Thanks Hugh - just what I needed.

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Seen a few - most have Hill Descent, one has central diff with lock. I'm not off roading - just towing & launching - what do you reckon is more useful? As I'm not climbing over boulders will I notice the difference?
All Discovery 2's should have Hill Descent Control but it is a complete waste of space. It limits downhill descent speed to about 4 mph, which in any conditions where you might want a fixed descent speed is about 4 times too fast. Put into context my 300Tdi 90's engine braking in first gear brings it down to about 1.5mph on the GPS. I only ever used HDC once in anger and that was on my old Freelander, descending a very icy hill. It cut in suddenly and almost caused me to have a F&%^ing great big accident so I switched it off in a hurry, got to the bottom in one piece and have never really bothered with it again except just messing around, messing around that proved that I know a lot more about when I want the brakes on and when I don't than any computer! It might be a good idea if it restricted the vehicle to a sensible speed but as it is set up, it is way too fast to be useful.

Centre difflock is useful but I would say not essential for what you want, don't make it the main reason for buying the vehicle or anything. The traction control system works OK, but not as well as they would have you believe, but it should be OK for what you want.
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All Discovery 2's should have Hill Descent Control but it is a complete waste of space. It limits downhill descent speed to about 4 mph, which in any conditions where you might want a fixed descent speed is about 4 times too fast. Put into context my 300Tdi 90's engine braking in first gear brings it down to about 1.5mph on the GPS. I only ever used HDC once in anger and that was on my old Freelander, descending a very icy hill. It cut in suddenly and almost caused me to have a F&%^ing great big accident so I switched it off in a hurry, got to the bottom in one piece and have never really bothered with it again except just messing around, messing around that proved that I know a lot more about when I want the brakes on and when I don't than any computer! It might be a good idea if it restricted the vehicle to a sensible speed but as it is set up, it is way too fast to be useful.

Centre difflock is useful but I would say not essential for what you want, don't make it the main reason for buying the vehicle or anything. The traction control system works OK, but not as well as they would have you believe, but it should be OK for what you want.

Tend to agree with most of that - HDC is way too fast for extremes as you say but for a novice on icy slopes it is quite good.Remember not everyone has the sense to accelerate when they start to slide......

Traction control however is brilliant. It enables a Disco on normal road tyres to get places it never should. Put mud pluggers on and it's awesome. The problem is they now use it to disguise lack of axle articulation. Would love to see a softly suspended old RR Classic with traction control and chunky tyres - it would be incredible!!!
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You will find issues with all models and makes, have run TDI & Td5's, they all have their faults.

Another factor to consider is how long do you plan to keep it. Salt water gets everywhere and the rear cross members tend to go, this is where your tow ball attahces and in turn your pride and joy.

I know people who buy a new disco / landy every two years before the rust sets in, buyer beware..........take a good look before you buy, remember the chassis rust from the inside out, by the time you see it it is too late.

Buy a land cruiser, you will not be disapointed.
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Certainly looking like the Discovery so far dad eh?

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You will find issues with all models and makes, have run TDI & Td5's, they all have their faults.

Another factor to consider is how long do you plan to keep it. Salt water gets everywhere and the rear cross members tend to go, this is where your tow ball attahces and in turn your pride and joy.

I know people who buy a new disco / landy every two years before the rust sets in, buyer beware..........take a good look before you buy, remember the chassis rust from the inside out, by the time you see it it is too late.

Buy a land cruiser, you will not be disapointed.
Come off it - the cockle pickers in Penclawdd have nearly all gone back to Land Rovers - the Jap stuff just wasn't lasting as long!!!

Rear crossmembers do not "go" - they may get scabby and need patching but the strength is still there - mine is from 1988 and has been used by the Police and coastguards and is still going strong!!!

Also there is this great stuff called paint - also washing off with fresh water works wonders as well.
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I currently use the Nissan Patrol GDR 4.2 Straight Six manual. (1994)
Plenty of pulling power, does'nt seem to now its pulling. Allways been very forgiving. Little bit juicy. Cheap to get hold of due to the engine size. Maintenance better than Shogun or Landcruiser.

The Nissan towed better than a V6 Shogun. Had a Defender 110, bullet proof but a little ruff around the edges, but as said before will do just about anything you ask of it. The nice thing about the Nissan is its weight. 2300kg, which gives a very controlled tow.

Good luck with the hunting for a new tonka toy.
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Well - finally found the one I wanted

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone out there who offered advice a few weeks ago when I asked about Disco's. This is what I finally bought.

'03' Disco, ES spec, Diesel, Manual, Unmarked & doen't even squeak & rattle inside. Had it on the Dealers off road course yesterday - awesome performance & obviously capable of so much more.

Only thing - I filled it up this morning - 75! Will be trailing with it tomorrow if the weathers good enough.
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