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Old 11 May 2009, 00:23   #1
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Diesel Bowser Trailer needed

I need to transport 1,000 litres of diesel in a bowser trailer, towed by a pick up truck, along 5km of tarmac roads once a week, then pump it into a range of fire service training vehicles.
I cannot find a suitable trailer bowser in Oman (see examples available elsewhere - www.fuelproof.co.uk) so due to cheap labour etc I am considering having one built. The problem is that whilst engineering skills are good, design and drawing is not.

Pleaser can anyone advise me where I can get basic engineering drawings that can be adapted to such a trailer. Drawings are neede for a suitable tank that meets relevant standards as well as trailer base. Many thanks
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I need to transport 1,000 litres of diesel in a bowser trailer, towed by a pick up truck, along 5km of tarmac roads once a week, then pump it into a range of fire service training vehicles.
I cannot find a suitable trailer bowser in Oman (see examples available elsewhere - www.fuelproof.co.uk) so due to cheap labour etc I am considering having one built. The problem is that whilst engineering skills are good, design and drawing is not.

Pleaser can anyone advise me where I can get basic engineering drawings that can be adapted to such a trailer. Drawings are neede for a suitable tank that meets relevant standards as well as trailer base. Many thanks
Will the guy who fills the bowser not fill the vehicles directly from the tanker?
It's not allowed over here, but that's UK H&S rules.
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Wouldn't bother with a trailer, just stick one of these in the back of a Tranny van.

http://www.industrysearch.com.au/Pro...ntainers-20547

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Second-hand one for sale here...

http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehi...light_Line.htm

They often have the straight-forward "bowser" type available..worth a call.
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Wouldn't bother with a trailer, just stick one of these in the back of a Tranny van.

http://www.industrysearch.com.au/Pro...ntainers-20547

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I agree - or buy a cheap normal trailer and stick an IBC in it - remember you will need a trailer that will carry about a ton. If its legal of course which it probably will be out there!!!

Machine mart and others sell suitable 12v pumps.

£350 for a good trailer - £40 for an IBC and about £100 for the pump.
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Gents thanks for comments:

Havent worked out how to 'quote yet but;
Nos4r2 - Will the guy who fills the bowser not fill the vehicles directly from the tanker?
It's not allowed over here, but that's UK H&S rules.
9 trucks are ex UKFRS Volvos and RHD so in a LHD country we can only use them on site. We have centre steer Carmichael aviation fire trucks which are road legal and we blast them down the road for 5km to blow out the Detroit 2stroke diesels then fill them up.

Pete - good call but I have not found an IBC available here yet - good marketing opportunity for someone? - however I shall spread my search to people who ship chemicals etc

Jono - thanks I have mailed the firm on prices and shipping

Codders - again thanks for advice particularly on trailer but it is local avaiilability that is the issue

I shall follow up the leads so far but I have also looked into simple cradle for 2 x 200l drums with bund that can be fixed onto stillage and bolted into pick up. Advantages of drums that have been mentioned (and I appreciate feedback) is that if they are full and secured no need for honeycomb baffles, cheap, replaceable, common threads etc. I shall keep looking as I need to bottom this one out. Paying 25% over pump price for each litre of fuel delivered is a good incentive. Many thanks
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Sorry Codprawn double thanks for the info on where to get the pump and gear
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If you do find an IBC make sure you cover it with something - polyprop goes very brittle with UV after a while.

Also look at Northen Tool.

http://www.northerntooluk.com/

Sometimes cheaper than Machine Mart.
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If you do find an IBC make sure you cover it with something - polyprop goes very brittle with UV after a while.
and they get hot too, we have a black one with a 1000 litres of rain water in the garden, couple of days of UK sunshine and its warm bath temp,

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Don't bother with a Fuel Proof one anyway - they aren't! Dad has one - cost a couple of grand I think and is a pile of sh&te - twin skinned bunded but very soon after he got it (a few months and only a handful of bowser-fuls) the internal skin ruptured so the diesel now leaks slowly into the bund and the pump area. He still uses it but has to fill it up and then pump it out straight away which defeated the point of getting it in the first place.

I have to cart kerosene out to our house as the depot tankers won't deliver (no road) and I use a 208L drum in the back of my pickup with a ratchet strap around it, stand it upright with the bung on top, take it into town, fill it up, take it back and pump it into our tank, that way I don't have to move it while its full. I could carry two in theory but I have to cross rough ground to get to the house so I figure that loading the vehicle close to its max weight would not be sensible. One day I'll get around to buying an electric pump and had been eyeing up the NT ones, at the moment I just use a Clarke rotary hand pump.

I'd also been eyeing up these http://www.ljacksonandco.com/ljdbase...?editid1=11580 ugly but functional
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