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Old 14 May 2009, 15:28   #11
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Wouldn't bother with a trailer, just stick one of these in the back of a Tranny van.

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So these are compliant with the Carriage of Dangerous Goods Regs right?

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Old 14 May 2009, 16:48   #12
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It won't matter a jot unless being transported by ship while loaded.

IBCs do comply, as it happens. It merely states 'suitable packaging' that can withstand 'Normal Transport Conditions' as far as I remember.
Comes under Packages rather than Tanks, too.
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Old 14 May 2009, 21:15   #13
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Does sound odd but then the DG regs are a load of crap anyway. For export shipment a diesel generator with a sniff of fuel left in the tank requires a DGN to be completed, but 9000 litres of lube oil goes through without a second glance. I know which I'd rather be standing next to if the ship caught fire...
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Old 14 May 2009, 21:29   #14
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Besides which we are talking about Oman!!!
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Old 15 May 2009, 00:26   #15
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Bear in mind IBCs can be used for transporting conc. acid and it makes a bit more sense. To carry an IBC full of Derv would require an ADR licence and ADR equipped vehicle in the UK-but as Codprawn says, it's Oman.
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To carry an IBC full of Derv would require an ADR licence and ADR equipped vehicle in the UK-but as Codprawn says, it's Oman.
I thought (and I could certainly be wrong/out-of-date) that you could carry up-to 1000L of DERV like that even in the UK without needing an ADR licence, Hazchem plates etc. Something in my memory said there was a bizzare clause about "own use" - because obviously as soon as its for sale it becomes more dangerous. I'm certainly no expert though.
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I thought (and I could certainly be wrong/out-of-date) that you could carry up-to 1000L of DERV like that even in the UK without needing an ADR licence, Hazchem plates etc. Something in my memory said there was a bizzare clause about "own use" - because obviously as soon as its for sale it becomes more dangerous. I'm certainly no expert though.
Actually, I think you're right. I don't do own use though-all the DERV I carry is for sale.
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So these are compliant with the Carriage of Dangerous Goods Regs right? CJL
Well they are used for shipping chemicals normally which is were mine originally came from. As Codders says in Oman in the back of a covered truck.......

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I thought (and I could certainly be wrong/out-of-date) that you could carry up-to 1000L of DERV like that even in the UK without needing an ADR licence, Hazchem plates etc. Something in my memory said there was a bizzare clause about "own use" - because obviously as soon as its for sale it becomes more dangerous. I'm certainly no expert though.
I think that's probably right - hence the fact that loads of the mini trailer tankers are 950L capacity. Something on one of the websites I was looking at said that all you need is a 2L fire extinguisher in the tow vehicle to comply, though if all I had was 2L of AFFF to fight a ton of burning diesel I would chuck it in the general direction of the fire and run like hell....
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The problem in Oman is two fold, buying and moving the diesel on the road.

Petrol stations have recently been subject to a Royal Oman Police clampdown on filling unsuitable fuel containers. There is ROP guidance similar to ADR Regs but no-one at the Police Office will tell you whether your container/bowser/trailier meets the regs but traffic police will pull you and fine you. Example; there are no design and use regs for motorbike or boat trailers yet many people use them and are pulled and fined completely at random.

Filling stations are very wary about putting fuel into containers. Some days I have problems getting local staff to buy 150L of fuel in Yamaha fuel cells, other days I can buy it in old 25L foam cans without a problem. Being a westerner also helps.

The only solution is to get/make a bowser and make it as compliant as possible then get a letter from ROP stating that it is legit. Today I will have 1500L of diesel delivered straight into trucks and pay about 20% over pump price. This certainly adds up after a few weeks/months.

Thanks for advice I shall keep trying.
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