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Old 16 June 2005, 18:23   #11
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We have 4 of them at work just for towing and launching boats. They have all been spot on. We got them cause they can tow more than anything else, and the service intervals are 12k instead of 6k for most other jap 4x4 diesels.
One of them had just done over 225000 miles and still going just fine.
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Old 16 June 2005, 18:39   #12
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Great, reassured by those fine comments and help, will buy one tomorrow.

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Old 17 June 2005, 01:09   #13
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Hi this may be worth a try, this chap is getting 10k off a new D3 HSE!!
http://disco3.web-rover.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=539
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Old 17 June 2005, 07:31   #15
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Thanks to all, I bought 3 x magazines today, Land Rover International, Land Rover monthly and Land Rover world and read them on the train, great info in them, Oh! and I bought my brand new UK specification dream Defender 90 today with all extras I wanted and a massive saving of 5,800 off MRRP, delivery next Friday

So thanks

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Go & introduce your self to the service manager at your local dealer!
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Try Reid Land Rovers (Specialising in the sale of Quality used Land Rovers)
tel: 01403 790518
they are located on the A29 near Horsham and since you are in London not that far

full address: Richmond Stud farm
A29 Bognor Road , Rowhook
Nr Horsham, West Sussex, RH12 3PY

I part exchanged my Freelander with them in January this year / took a Disco 300TDI auto - I am very pleased with it after nearly 6 months - no problems so far

They always have a lot of used land rovers in stock

Has a web page but not so sure if updated
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Thanks Mark, great practical advice, can't afford the teflon at 1,400 plus vat but waxoyl looks good
You can after that saving.

What ever you do, do not put a setting or hardening anti-rust coating on the chassis. You will miss bits and the water will find its way in and stay there.

Waxoyl is the biz for a DIY job. Re do it every couple of years.
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Defenders

I have to say they look cool, and are great off road, unfortunatly you have to be prepared to throw money at them constantly.
You shouldnt have to buy a vehicle and then go about rust proofing it for yourself, does this not make you wonder,
Defenders are notoriously unreliable, soft gearboxes , and they do leak oil.
I wouldnt consider a Dixon Bate hitch, have you read the posts here about ,pins failing or popping out, not really necessary for rib towing, maybe plant or machinery.
Apart from being dated and , succeptable to corrosion, the engineering just isnt there, no luxurys, they are far too basic.
Defenders , Discos, and Range Rovers, all belong to the same British family of bad engineering, its nice to be patroic and all that, but if you want a tow vehicle that is fit for the job, buy a Jap vehicle, over engineering and quality is what you will get.
A friend of mine bought a Defender, low mileage etc etc, picked it up in Offaly en route to Dublin,gearbox failed.......didnt even get it home.
Tim has a story about towing a J24 from Italy to Ireland, he was offered a Range Rover for the tow, the insurance company wouldnt even consider cover for the Rover, he happily towed it in his Jap L200, 56000 miles later and still on that same clutch.
Defenders are enthuasists vehicles, some one who has the time to do the mods, recalls and repairs, thankfully the Japs build 4x4s I am not Defender bashing, but lets be honest here


I took this quote from review centre.com 2 reviews about Defenders
this is one of em

Bad Points
Don't touch the Td5 Engine - mine self destructed at 59 349 miles and 4 years old. Land Rover tell me this is acceptable so I have had to replace the engine (5 000 all in ouch).

another customer wrote

2000 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon from UK and Ireland
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Great vehicle ruined by poor quality workmanship
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What things have gone wrong with the car?
Rear differential was replaced, complete rear axle was replaced, now the transfer gearbox is being replaced, all in less than 2000 miles on a brand new vehicle.

Upon delivery the sunroof leaked and the front passenger door lock was defective.
General comments?
Insufficient quality control at the factory, very poor workmanship on vehicle assembly.

A wonderful vehicle if it was reliable. Land Rover need a serious rethink about their quality control procedures if indeed they have any.

And from the same site
What things have gone wrong with the car?
Internal plastic trim either side of the rear door has come loose, nothing a bit of glue can't fix!

N/s door slightly buckled around the hinge due to over opening, door definitely needs strengthening.
General comments?
For a two ton vehicle it handles very well, I had 70mph out of her around some very twisty country lanes despite the 235 section general grabbers giving me a very vague feeling through the steering. Body roll was minimal. the TD5 engine is gutless when off the turbo which hinders progress when in low range under idle when negotiating fords or steep gradients causing the engine to stall where a 300tdi would have plodded on regardless. A bit of throttle with the diff-lock engaged and the rover will go over and through anything albeit under less control. axle articulation is still very impressive considering my model has anti-roll bars front and rear, I crossed a particular section where I had previously x-axled a '95 disco. Air con installation is very bulky and takes up most of the passenger footwell. oh and to cool the whole vehicle down you need the unit on full blast and whats the first thing in front of the air-con vents? the drivers shin


And finally


What things have gone wrong with the car?
New radiator, new camshaft kit, every engine orifice leaks, rain leaks in the doors.



Did I just read that
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Old 17 June 2005, 17:44   #20
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Mitsubishi L200 Warrior V Defender 110 Double Cab County Spec



here is 13 pages off a post as why not to buy a Defender including links to prob pages etc, in the end Daniel TD5 bought an L200
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