Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 05 December 2012, 18:47   #11
Member
 
kerny's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 60
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,040
RIBase
Send a message via Skype™ to kerny
Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai View Post
Oi! Nothing humbl about a Searider.

Sorry Dhd I didn't realise that they are posh..... must be all that gaffer tape
__________________

__________________
Member of S.A.B.S. (Lancashire Division)
kerny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 December 2012, 18:57   #12
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,298
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny View Post
Sorry Dhd I didn't realise that they are posh.....
Have you priced up a new one?
__________________

__________________
Downhilldai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 December 2012, 18:59   #13
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,114
Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus View Post
...you have a recipe for disaster, with unfortunately a growing number of fatalities.
Actually cycling fatalities are generally falling in the UK: Is cycling in Great Britain getting safer? We crunch the numbers | road.cc | Road cycling news, Bike reviews, Commuting, Leisure riding, Sportives and more

Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny View Post
Anyone see tonight's program, this clip was shown on the program.
Interestingly being discussed on the cycling forums too. General consensus seems to be that it was reasonably balanced (nobody there denies that some cyclists are idiots). When I was young and riding in the city centre I used to get would up, shout at and chase down drivers who were stupid; in the end I gave up cycling. 12 yrs later I started again, and almost never get would up; the roads aren't any safer, certainly aren't any quieter, but
I've come to realise people aren't perfect mostly don't drive like idiots intentionally and perhaps most importantly if I get wound up cycling is no longer enjoyable and I'd be as well sitting in the car or on a bus.
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05 December 2012, 19:01   #14
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: WhiteNoise/Dominator
Make: Ballistic 7.8/SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Opti 225/Yam 85
MMSI: 235090687/235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,645
RIBase
I don't like cyclists.

Maybe 5% are ok and actually aware of their surroundings. The rest are something akin to toddlers playing on the M4, with the ipod zombies being the worst.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 December 2012, 02:10   #15
Member
 
paddlers's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,063
Living in the sticks the main problem with cyclists are the occassional rafts (usually blokes) about 4 deep across the road making it difficult to overtake on narrow roads. If they made the effort to allow you to pass there'd be a lot less issues with impatient drivers, even worse are the blokes in tractors with trailers that drive for mile after mile with cars behind at 20mph!! You're unlikely to knock them over though......!
__________________
paddlers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 December 2012, 04:03   #16
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,114
Quote:
Originally Posted by paddlers View Post
Living in the sticks the main problem with cyclists are the occassional rafts (usually blokes) about 4 deep across the road making it difficult to overtake on narrow roads.
Paddlers, I'm not going to defend cycling 4 deep, although in my experience any group cycling that deep will usually be consistently doing 20mph+ (unless up hill) and may hold you up much less than a fat bloke like me on his own.

There is however a debate even within the cycling community about whether riding two up (or potentially more) is actually safer than 'singling out'. Unfortunately when singled out on narrow roads overtaking drivers tend to squeeze through gaps that don't really exist. That is obviously dangerous. By riding two abreast cyclists become a similar 'size' to a car on the road and thus "force" overtaking using the full road rather the squeezing through. There is a benefit for responsible car drivers too, six riders riding two abreast will take up about the same length of road as a large van, if they single out your overtake (which still need clear road on the other side) is for double the length. Of course the same argument would apply to a bigger group who decide to bunch up to four abreast - they increase the width (but groups riding 4 abreast will usually still be no wider than a car) but shorten the distance of your overtake by 3/4s. Obviously there is an argument to split the group up, but of course there are other arguments that a large group is more visible, its certainly more efficient in terms of cycling, and its probably easiest for drivers to overtake one big group once, than have 4 of 5 overtakes in the space of a few miles.

Unfortunately there is no way for a cyclist to know whether the car / van / bus / truck is being driven by someone with a brain or not so the defensive approach is to assume that its probably not. Generally cyclists don't want a car sitting impatiently behind them, they haven't come out to sit in traffic for fun, so (although there are idiots in all walks of life) won't be holding you up for fun. Most cyclists would welcome the police taking a more proactive approach in policing cycling - red light jumpers, no lights, cutting up the inside of trucks turning left at junctions, and riding on the pavement* are things that generally that should be getting action; whilst obviously balanced against policing of bad overtakes, misuse of advanced stop boxes and aggressive driving etc.

If you've not been on a bike since you were a teenager I'd recommend riding a variety of roads, I think it makes you a better (more aware / understanding) driver.
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 December 2012, 04:10   #17
Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
Quote:
Originally Posted by mister p View Post
I used to row on the Thames for my school, sculls, fours and eights.
So did I - but I was mostly sat in the back steering!
__________________
Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 December 2012, 04:15   #18
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,610
Bottom line is there are both responsible and tw@t cyclists and drivers (regardless of vehicle). I used to cycle a lot more athan I do now, and kliek the rest of you have had some near misses & one headlong vault over my handlebars / someones front hedge & a parachute roll in theior front garden as I tried not to pile into the sid eof a Mini Metro who quite obviously either didn't see me or totally underestimated my speed.

So, UI can live with being delayed by a cyclist. I can even live with realising I am on the same road as a cycle race (and with a rib on the back makes overtaking almost impossible)......BUT

WHY WON'T THE NUMPTIES WHO ARE GIVEN A WHOLE NETWORK OF CYCLE PATHS / UNDERPASSES / ROUNDABOUT AVIOIDING ROUTES ETC ETC USE THE DAMN FACILITIES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TURN RIGHT ON A F****ING DUAL CARRIAGEWAY ROUNDABOUT FROM THE INSIDE LANE!!!!!!!!!!!!

<and breath>...... It is possible to do the whole town on a bike without touching a main road. Rant over.
__________________
9D280 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 December 2012, 05:08   #19
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Bangor, North Wales
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Evinrude 70hp OB
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 93
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280 View Post

WHY WON'T THE NUMPTIES WHO ARE GIVEN A WHOLE NETWORK OF CYCLE PATHS / UNDERPASSES / ROUNDABOUT AVIOIDING ROUTES ETC ETC USE THE DAMN FACILITIES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO TURN RIGHT ON A F****ING DUAL CARRIAGEWAY ROUNDABOUT FROM THE INSIDE LANE!!!!!!!!!!!!

<and breath>...... It is possible to do the whole town on a bike without touching a main road. Rant over.
I can tell you the answer to that one. They are generally worse than useless. How would you like to give way at every side road? Be instructed to get out of your car and push at each major junction? Take three cycles of the lights to turn right? Have a protected lane only when you do NOT need it? Generally be a third class citizen? Alternatively, you can take you chances with the traffic, but get the same rights as everyone else. I think traffic planners who are going to design cycle facilities should be forced to use them!

David
__________________
dpround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 December 2012, 05:21   #20
RIBnet supporter
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,830
Impatience is the problem. Drivers just can't wait to overtake and until you have a crash you don't really understand the consequences of potentially injuring someone.
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:34.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.