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Old 02 March 2007, 04:23   #41
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Here's a good linky thingy...http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/inf30.pdf
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Old 02 March 2007, 04:29   #42
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Go no... explain how that works, with the standard trailer braking system Ie those operated by the coupling "shortening"....
Oh thats easy, bit of friction through rust in the brake components causes them to remain on after the towing vehicles brakes have been released, until you give it lots of welly again. Its a intentional design feature created by using mild steel for brakes on trailers.



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Old 02 March 2007, 04:37   #43
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Oh thats easy, bit of friction through rust in the brake components causes them to remain on after the towing vehicles brakes have been released, until you give it lots of welly again. Its a intentional design feature created by using mild steel for brakes on trailers.



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Old 02 March 2007, 05:33   #44
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In fairness, that trailer and boat combo did weigh in at over 4 tonnes if I remember correctly. I remember seeing him leave the yard with the rear suspension bottoming out, and the tow hitch slowly distorting out of shape.
hmm well that in itself sounds like an accident waiting to happen does it not?

I am well aware that my trailer puts too much downforce on the tow hitch (hitch is too high and I can't fit a lower one as it compromises clearance off road) but as I only do 25mph to the launch site it doesn't bother me. I wouldn't dream of towing it at 70mph especially if it weighed twice as much!
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Old 02 March 2007, 06:49   #45
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Had look at this site for my trailer sizes, the more sites you look at the more of a nightmare it seems to become, trailer/rib width looks like it could be a problem.

http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/law/dimensions.htm
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Wasn't Cookee selling his truck with 6 tonne hiab. Sorry Richard but a Disco isn't going to do it. The Royal Marines use 4 tonne Bedfords to tow there Artic 28s which it does quite well, if a little slowly.

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My lorry is for sale - a Volvo FL10 - full air suspension, a flat bed suitable for a cradle and a good hiab crane to launch it with - if you want to discuss it PM me and we'll chat - it will need a "C" licence though!
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Had look at this site for my trailer sizes, the more sites you look at the more of a nightmare it seems to become, trailer/rib width looks like it could be a problem.

http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/law/dimensions.htm
Tell me about it - we have discussed this many times before but there is also the "indivisible load" clause - they use it for gliders that can have trailers up to 20m or 65' long!!! The way I see it a boat is also an "indivisible load" - uless you get out the chainsaw.....
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So after 1.1.97 you need a class 2 licence then, to drive a 7.5 tonner with more than 750 kgs trailed, I wasnt far off ? Or a 7.5 tonner full stop?

You need a:-
Class C1 (7.5 tonne) licence to drive a 7.5 tonner
Class C1E to drive a 7.5 tonner with trailer with Max Authorised Mass up to 12000kg (though there's a licence restriction in place for non HGV licence holders restricting total weight of the whole combination to 8250kg)
Class C is rigid HGV with up to 750kg trailer
Class C+E is the old class 1 or artic HGV licence

If you want to drive the classes of vehicle above, look at your licence. If it's there then you can drive it. If it's not then take a test for that type of vehicle.

If you use a 7.5 tonner as a tow vehicle the weight of the whole rig can't exceed 8250kg-ie empty 7.5 tonner@4 tonnes(ish) means it can tow 4250kg.
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My lorry is for sale - a Volvo FL10 - full air suspension, a flat bed suitable for a cradle and a good hiab crane to launch it with - if you want to discuss it PM me and we'll chat - it will need a "C" licence though!
If you need a delivery driver for it drop me a line-as long as I don't have to drive it along Fore Street. I got a 17 tonne Renault up there once. Never again!
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Yes this is my point, 3500 kgs is not far off 4 tonnes.
Pete, you seem to have a bit of selective memory here! My recollection is that < Edit: name deleted to protect the guilty! JK > knowingly attached a boat and trailer weighing well over 4 tonnes to a Disco, and despite the suspension bottoming out and the tow hitch showing signs of stress, started a journey form Southampton to Holyhead. He subsequently had two accidents on the road, the second one finishing the journey for him. You used that as an example of how a Disco would perform poorly when towling a load close to it's maximum! You also chose to contradict codprawn who tells us that when using his own Disco close to the maximum towing limit, he has done so in a safe manner without incident. Go figure!
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hmm well that in itself sounds like an accident waiting to happen does it not?
Stephen, we do appear to be arging the same point!
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