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03 November 2008, 18:08
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Coastguard 'elf and safety'!!
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03 November 2008, 18:53
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This WILL cost lives - I haven't heard of the coastguard killing many people with flares!!!
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03 November 2008, 19:06
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Perhaps someone should do a health and safety assessment on the consequences of pissing the public off so much with jobsworth decisions. I suspect it's far more dangerous than flares...
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03 November 2008, 19:10
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I think this has come to the point where the management of organisations such at the Coastguard should realise that their modestly paid staff, and the volunteers, are there because they can do "dangerous" things legally and safely. Lets face it, if the RNLI had to plod around at displacement speed and in conditions of f6 and less because of some misplaced "health and safety" directive, then most of the volunteers would probably leave!
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03 November 2008, 19:23
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"Rescue teams have been told to use 'safer' alternatives such as torches and night vision goggles during land-based cliff and beach rescues. "
The decision only applies to land use. Does this put a different perspective on it?
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03 November 2008, 19:25
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Like the two pcso's who stood watching a child drown whilst following 'procedure', whilst most of the rest of us would have had our jackets off in a split second to do our best, its another blurring of the lines where simple effective measures & methods get pushed to the side in favour of unworkable and inefective, alternatives. When do these idiots come out from behind a desk I ask ?..
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03 November 2008, 20:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
"Rescue teams have been told to use 'safer' alternatives such as torches and night vision goggles during land-based cliff and beach rescues. "
The decision only applies to land use. Does this put a different perspective on it?
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Not really if you're on moorland.
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03 November 2008, 21:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Not really if you're on moorland.
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Well yes and no, moorland can burn spectacularly well after a few weeks of dry weather - ask any Grouse-fondler!
I've never heard of a land based rescue using magnesium flares, the report suggests it's uncommon. Water based Rescue will continue to use flares if required.
I think this is a storm in a teacup.
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03 November 2008, 22:09
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So the army will have to stop using them too then  followed by proper bullets in action, incase anyone gets hurt
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03 November 2008, 22:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Well yes and no, moorland can burn spectacularly well after a few weeks of dry weather
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Hopefully the coastguard has enough common sense not to do that then...
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