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Old 28 August 2009, 16:51   #71
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There is a brillaint welder near me - all he uses is oxy - it's a joy to watch him work - the way he bends and shapes the steel as he works using the heat of the torch. He can weld rust to rust almost - try that with any electric process!!!
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There is a brillaint welder near me - all he uses is oxy - it's a joy to watch him work - the way he bends and shapes the steel as he works using the heat of the torch. He can weld rust to rust almost - try that with any electric process!!!
Had some Black Smiths on the Steel Works I used to be on, was a joy to watch them work. Some of the heavy plant in there scared the sh!t out of me though!
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There is a brillaint welder near me - all he uses is oxy - it's a joy to watch him work - the way he bends and shapes the steel as he works using the heat of the torch. He can weld rust to rust almost - try that with any electric process!!!
Oxy Acteylene used to/still is used to straighten some pretty thick section stuff with heat only.

Thinnest stuff I worked on was 1.0mm mild steel, most theraputic.
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so did you stick weld that or mig it? I must admit i did all the welding on my series one with a stick, it turned out really neat, The MOT man said it was neat welding, when i said i did it with a 2.5 mm rod he said F*** off that migged
I wouldnt use a stick again though, its neat enough but takes soooooo long. I dread to think how long it would have taken to do the 90ft barge with a stick, took long enough with the 500A mig and 1.2mm wire I think it sent my mate Geraint a bit mental
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so did you stick weld that or mig it? I must admit i did all the welding on my series one with a stick, it turned out really neat, The MOT man said it was neat welding, when i said i did it with a 2.5 mm rod he said F*** off that migged
I wouldnt use a stick again though, its neat enough but takes soooooo long. I dread to think how long it would have taken to do the 90ft barge with a stick, took long enough with the 500A mig and 1.2mm wire I think it sent my mate Geraint a bit mental

MIG...of course...but then we use very sophisticated ..well, as sophisticated as welding gets...sets..and I know the difference between "good looking" welds and "good" welds....
What on earth does he need a 500 AMP set with 1.2 (Solid?) wire for...when you're piddling about with the tin-plate they make barges from... I'm just going to imagine the porosity...why not FCAW them...?
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MIG...of course...but then we use very sophisticated ..well, as sophisticated as welding gets...sets..and I know the difference between "good looking" welds and "good" welds....
What on earth does he need a 500 AMP set with 1.2 (Solid?) wire for...when you're piddling about with the tin-plate they make barges from... I'm just going to imagine the porosity...why not FCAW them...?
The big welder was used for other stuff too, excavator buckets, tractor loader frames etc. worked out pretty good for the barge, some of the plate was fairly thick especially around the keel which was 1.5" thick and the bottom was 13mm thick.
also he already had the mig, and the fumes aren't as orrible as FCAW.
The surveyor said it was the best put together dutch barge he had seen, but then again thats not much of a compliment bearing in mind most of the welding I have seen on them seens to be cosmetically finished with a smear of filler or sikaflex
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The surveyor said it was the best put together dutch barge he had seen, but then again thats not much of a compliment bearing in mind most of the welding I have seen on them seens to be cosmetically finished with a smear of filler or sikaflex
A lad on Corus used to do lovely welds with putty and a lollipop stick!
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I used a stick for years and when i finally bought a MIG i was kicking myself for not buying one 10 years earlier
Well I'm a died in the wool stick man .. and theres not much I can't do with it except thinner stuff which is where the MIG scores, as everyone that comes into my shop keeps telling me .. So Ive been interested to read this thread .. I can only get single phase, and the lights in the offices start flickering when I go over 3 mil .. I believe the MIG doesnt draw as much power ? cos sometimes I have to weld 10mm stuff to buckets etc, what size MIG would handle that ? and can you use the same size wire for all apps, or do you have to change it a lot ? Its adding another dang cylinder to my BOC account that keeps putting me off ...
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Well I'm a died in the wool stick man .. and theres not much I can't do with it except thinner stuff which is where the MIG scores, as everyone that comes into my shop keeps telling me .. So Ive been interested to read this thread .. I can only get single phase, and the lights in the offices start flickering when I go over 3 mil .. I believe the MIG doesnt draw as much power ? cos sometimes I have to weld 10mm stuff to buckets etc, what size MIG would handle that ? and can you use the same size wire for all apps, or do you have to change it a lot ? Its adding another dang cylinder to my BOC account that keeps putting me off ...

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