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Old 15 June 2004, 16:43   #1
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its the canary wharf motor show this week lots to see and its free new landrover discovery is on show but you can,t see inside as its a pre production model its worth a look for free allso rangerover storm is on display
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Old 15 June 2004, 16:50   #2
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Old 15 June 2004, 16:51   #3
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Dan, is the Range Storm the finished article or still at the pre-production stage? The original concept photos in the motoring press looked appalling, so what's it like in the metal? Saw the new Disco at the NEC motor show a couple of weeks ago and had mixed feelings, although I think on balance Land Rover has done the right thing making such bold revisions to the existing model - jeez, that mother was getting real old in the tooth.
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the range rover storm looks very cool its way ahead of the norm but it could
be sold to the open market
the new disco looks very strange but i hated the new rangerover at first so the looks will grow on me
i do like the old discovery shape and as with all out going models the limited
addition are now out with all the toys a play school would require
so may be my when i out the new fiesta zetec TDCI kel has i may be temped
for the ES PREMIUM that now out

had a look at the defender was thinking of changing the mitsubishi to a defender 90 van with two seats in the back can,t under stand the price

defender county van list price 20195.00 inc vat crap spec
mitsubishi four life list price 18175.oo inc vat nice spec

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was thinking of changing the mitsubishi to a defender 90 van with two seats in the back can,t under stand the price

defender county van list price 20195.00 inc vat crap spec
mitsubishi four life list price 18175.oo inc vat nice spec

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Yes, I always thought the Defenders were very expensive and wondered why, until I asked one of the bods in Solihull who told me that, due to the difficulties of streamlining Defender's production process, it is in fact their least profitable model!! I still think you should get one, though
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Yes, I always thought the Defenders were very expensive and wondered why, until I asked one of the bods in Solihull who told me that, due to the difficulties of streamlining Defender's production process, it is in fact their least profitable model!! I still think you should get one, though
Thats an understatement. Defenders are essentially hand built. Well hand, feet and bloody great hammers at times! There has been very little automation or investment in Defender production since the Ford takeover - money has been thrown at Rangie, Disco and Freeloader.

Defenders remain just about the ultimate offroader and have a "character" and "charm" all of their own. However they are spectacularly poor vfm when compared to the likes of Toyota 4lifes, Ranger Doublecabs etc.
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Thats an understatement. Defenders are essentially hand built. Well hand, feet and bloody great hammers at times! There has been very little automation or investment in Defender production since the Ford takeover - money has been thrown at Rangie, Disco and Freeloader.

Defenders remain just about the ultimate offroader and have a "character" and "charm" all of their own. However they are spectacularly poor vfm when compared to the likes of Toyota 4lifes, Ranger Doublecabs etc.
that the bottem line my four life is a very good tool i am thinking of change
and down sizeing my four life is the same model as the defender 110 pick
up doublecab which say went for that it would cost me 22195 inc vat how can it be four grand more my boss will tell me to f**k off if i say can i have one. when the warrior is only 18995 inc vat which is so cheap with great spec
i love landrovers and have had most models but the cost out weights the
love for owning one of soilhulls finest

ps hand if they are hand build why do they full apart
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Because they're hand built! You only have to look at TVR and, until recently at least, Aston Martin who have been trying to solve that problem for years. 'Ah, but it all adds to the character of the car, sir and isn't it delightful having the name of the chap who put it together stamped on the engine block?'.

'Hand built' - a cunning marketing wheeze employed by manufacturers to fool you into thinking it's better built, whereas all it really means is that they haven't invested in state-of-the-art technology to cut out laborious, and expensive, production methods. Compare London built shotguns - lovingly put together by ageing craftsmen over the course of two years and yours for 30,000. Alternatively, you can buy a top quality Italian gun where they use high-tech equipment to do the laborious jobs and use craftsmen to hand-finish it. End result - an exquisite piece of workmanship but at a third of the price.
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