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Old 23 May 2006, 17:36   #51
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Old drivers scare me FAR more than young drivers.

There have been loads of cases recently of people driving the wrong way down motorways etc - nearly always old drivers. Been quite a few deaths because of it as well.

Saw an old lady today in a Fiesta causing complete havoc - in the space of about 200yds she came close to causing about 6 accidents - totally oblivious to all the tooting horns etc. If it was a younger driver they would have been breath tested.

As to it ALWAYS being the person at the back's fault for shunting another driver up the backside I USED to think that - until I saw this video!!!



There are better versions of this out there but can't find them now!!!
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As to it ALWAYS being the person at the back's fault for shunting another driver up the backside I USED to think that - until I saw this video!!!
..and true to form the driver just drives off as if they are oblivious to everyone and everything else on the road!
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..and true to form the driver just drives off as if they are oblivious to everyone and everything else on the road!
Standard procedure for the OAP. although that looks like a taxi to me, Fiat Croma methinks, they are used alot in Turkey as Taxis and are made over there and rebranded, the name escapes me.
EDIT: a quick google has refreshed my memory, Tofas they are called over there, although it doesn't state where the accident happened.
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Standard procedure for the OAP. although that looks like a taxi to me, Fiat Croma methinks, they are used alot in Turkey as Taxis and are made over there and rebranded, the name escapes me.
taxis are a law unto themselves....aren't they?? Once saw one taxi driver having an argument with a customer, within seconds there were 5 more taxis / taxidrivers surrounding the one customer. One taxi driver who had nothing to do with it marches in and smacks the cusomter in the face. The Police gave the customer a warning for public disorder or something similar and said nothing to the taxi driver, how unfair is that far?

edit: this was in Southampton, not abroad!
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Old drivers scare me FAR more than young drivers.
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As to it ALWAYS being the person at the back's fault for shunting another driver up the backside

It's not ALWAYS the person at the back that's at fault-spend a day driving a fully loaded artic... The number of people who cut in just in front then brake is scary.

I've had someone do roughly what that yellow car did to me on the Stafford North junction of the M6.
She was parked on the hard shoulder of the exit slip. She drove the WRONG WAY up the exit slip and pulled straight onto the motorway in front of me at about 10mph. I had to go down the exit ramp to avoid her.
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..and amazing how many truck drivers drive about 10 foot away from the truck in front… whatever the weather… and middle lane hogs…what are they doing?….. anyone noticed how many more aggressive female drivers there are these days?… people driving along reading reports/instructions whilst wandering all over the carriageway anyone?… what about the Sunday morning bikers?… overtaking on blind bends? …and it’s spreading…. You used to be able to go to the continent and expect a huge leap in the standard of driving… especially amongst the truck drivers… but now that ain’t so… especially if the truck is wearing eastern European plates… young drivers…..old drivers…male drivers…female drivers… It’s pretty hard to work out who is worse… there is only one exception… I’m a great driver! Laugh all you like.. but isn’t that what most people think? Especially the young who haven’t had yet realised that they are not going to live forever… but I have an answer to the problem.
It came to me in a flash last night… well, when I say flash… more of a rattle and a wheeze… Last night I drove with more concentration and consideration than at any time in the last 25 years…..

Why?… well.. I use a local garage for all my vehicle servicing..both the commercials at work and my own fleet of assorted vehicles. The garage I use is a Grandfather, Father, Son type of business that specialise in commercials but will turn their hand to anything you throw at them from Artics to Lawn mowers with equal skill and professionalism.. they’re not cheap.. but by Christ they are thorough….. and honest… the Son builds competition Land Rover based vehicles…for fun .. the Father restores and works on classic rally cars… for fun… This is the sort of garage that it is. Anyway, they also operate a pretty unique service in this day and age… they have a team of drivers who collect and deliver for anything from a full service on your lorry to an MOT for your car…and.. this is the best bit.. they always leave you with a courtesy car… The Loaner!… They acquire these “loan” vehicle from a variety of sources… mostly from older customer who are giving up driving… or from the families of older customers… whose old relatives have… shall we say just “given up”.. if you know what I mean. The point that I am coming to is that all these loan vehicle are older models with low miles that have been lovingly cared for. ….. So I handed over my Ford Explorer to them yesterday and received… in return…. A splendid 25 year old Metro City…. Well what a shock to the system.. no power steering… no air bags…. no radio… no electric window.. in fact not much at all… I mean… it had four gears! When was the last time people drove a car with four gears?

So how did I enjoy this experience, driving the 30 odd miles home last night? I was bloody terrified….to start with… that’s how much I enjoyed it. I actually had to concentrate on driving and felt pretty vulnerable. I gave way to people…which.....if you now me is pretty remarkable in itself… I didn’t even miss the radio as driving was taking all my attention .. I left plenty of room between me and the car in front…then it struck me….. I was actually enjoying the drive… for the first time in years.. I actually enjoyed the drive! Why? Well… firstly the frustration at slower cars disappeared.. the route home takes in motorways, major trunks and country lanes… and country lanes can be pretty frustrating behind slower cars…but suddenly.. I don’t feel the need to overtake… 50 mph in a Metro feels like you’re flying along. Secondly, with concentrating on driving the agricultural little beast.. I had no time to let my mind mull over the problems of the day… a revelation, I can tell you.

So… my current theory is…* fanfare of trumpets * …. Modern vehicles are too easy to drive.. they cosset the driver so much that insufficient attention is paid to the actual driving of the vehicle.. air bags, ABS SIPS… they all make the driver feel invincible and cocooned... and allow them to take risks,… as does the effortless power that we have at our command, relatively speaking… so..

Ladies and Gentlemen.. I give you the "Retro Metro Revolution”

….. get caught speeding, tailgating, driving like a numpty and you will be sentenced to driving a small, low powered and very “unsafe” vehicle until you realise that the modern vehicle only gives an illusion of safety and invincibility…..






Ps… I can’t wait to borrow their latest “loaner”… a genuine, low mileage, one careful owner..beige .. Allegro ! Fantastic…
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..and amazing how many truck drivers drive about 10 foot away from the truck in front… whatever the weather…
if i get a tail gater i jently ease off the throttle and allow myself to slow down a bit then speed up to my original speed leaving them lagging, always works, especially effective with a lorry or diesel at the start of a large hill. the stubbon ones get the hint second time round icant beleive how close some cars travel and especially the lorrys, yes they can see a lot further ahead than you possibly can but still not good practice.
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For sure the elderly are the most scary thing on the roads these days.
For anyone who doubts this spend a few hours dodging and trying to get past the nissan micra and austin maxi loads of blue rinse found on the Isle of Wight. 15 to 20 mph is pretty normal for these and remember to keep your wits about you for enexpected strange manouvers which are nigh on impossible to predict.

and i continue my rant.... why on earth do pensioners insist on all shopping in the supermarkets on saturdays when they have the whole week free for this? It makes Sainsburys a virtual no go zone with silver trolley rage and elderly car park antics - I recently witnessed an elderly lady very forcefully park her japanese whatever firmly in the trolley bay - with trolleys in it...


i know... we will all be old one day but...
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For sure the elderly are the most scary thing on the roads these days.
For anyone who doubts this spend a few hours dodging and trying to get past the nissan micra and austin maxi loads of blue rinse found on the Isle of Wight. 15 to 20 mph is pretty normal for these and remember to keep your wits about you for enexpected strange manouvers which are nigh on impossible to predict.

and i continue my rant.... why on earth do pensioners insist on all shopping in the supermarkets on saturdays when they have the whole week free for this? It makes Sainsburys a virtual no go zone with silver trolley rage and elderly car park antics - I recently witnessed an elderly lady very forcefully park her japanese whatever firmly in the trolley bay - with trolleys in it...


i know... we will all be old one day but...
never ceases to amaze me how rude some older people are when they push into the queue or push to the front of the bargains section at tescos!!

i guess my view is that time is pressing for them as they dont have much time left!!
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Ah, bollocks to them...

In fact, bollocks to everyone-far safer. I can't be accused of ageism or any other kind of discrimination then.

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