Buying land

chewy · 11 February 2009, 20:15

Evening all,

I'm looking for some land to place a double garage/shed on as a workshop for my boat and car.

Question is finding houses for sale is easy but where do I find land for sale? All the sites I've been on are more like esatates and have nothing for sale "up North".

I'm in Staithes, North Yorkshire if that helps?

Thanks

JSP · 11 February 2009, 22:45

Your local auction house will be your best bet mate

chewy · 12 February 2009, 09:48

How/where would I find that? Is it a specific auction house or just any?

tinker · 12 February 2009, 18:03

Start with a rightmove search for land. There are specific websites for land, plotfinders one, plotsearch......... just google it.

I have found the best way is to actively advertise for it though, either through a local paper, shop windows or letters pushed through doors (google maps to find the plot)

Erin · 12 February 2009, 18:43

I would suggest you actually speak to your local estate agents. There's every chance they will have land for sale or contacts that'll be of use. It's often the case that they don't bother advertising land or garages as there is so little comission involved, but they may have knowlegde of bits for sale.

John Kennett · 12 February 2009, 18:50

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Originally Posted by chewy

I'm looking for some land to place a double garage/shed on as a workshop for my boat and car.

Don't forget that it's not as simple as just buying some land and sticking a shed on it. You're likely to need planning permission which may or may not be easy to get.

I don't know where you're thinking of, but an easier approach might be to talk to local farmers and try to find an existing building to rent.

chewy · 12 February 2009, 19:02

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

Don't forget that it's not as simple as just buying some land and sticking a shed on it. You're likely to need planning permission which may or may not be easy to get.

I don't know where you're thinking of, but an easier approach might be to talk to local farmers and try to find an existing building to rent.

I like the idea of renting a building but would prefer to buy a plot of land and stick some form of building on it.
I live in a National Park so planning is strict but as strict as I thought it would be.

I'll have a look on the sites suggested and see what comes up.

John Kennett · 12 February 2009, 21:14

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Originally Posted by chewy

I live in a National Park

In which case I'd hazard a guess that you have somewhere between no chance and no chance at all of being able to do what you want!

JSP · 12 February 2009, 22:02

Not 100% on this but I think as long as the construction isn't permanent like a large shed or the very large plastic garages you can get, then you don't need planning. Something like these LINK

codprawn · 13 February 2009, 13:22

Dutch barns and other argricultural buildings often don't need permission.

John Kennett · 13 February 2009, 14:06

But since this only applies for agricultural use and requires 5+ hectares of land it's likely to be yet another red herring. Renting an existing farm building to use as a workshop would technically require planning consent for change of use, but it's much less likely to attract attention than building something new.

JSP's large shed would require planning permission too if it's on its own piece of land (as opposed to an outbuilding to an existing house which you might be able to build under "permitted development" rights, but possibly not in a National Park). You might get away with a polytunnel, but I wouldn't even bet on that in a National Park.

chewy · 13 February 2009, 14:51

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

In which case I'd hazard a guess that you have somewhere between no chance and no chance at all of being able to do what you want!

As long as its in keeping with whats already around you have no problem. If your silly about what you ask for then like you say you have no chance. Asking for a farm building on farm land no problem.
I've already spoke to them regarding a wooden garage on the green near where I live and again no problem from the National Parks just the council want to turn it into a car park now.

chewy · 20 October 2009, 22:17

I want to buy a field (acre or so) to put a small lean to/shed on.
I've looked on the net but can't seem to find anywhere doing what I need?
How do I go about searching and buying some?

I'm in Staithes, North Yorkshire so anything around that area.

codprawn · 20 October 2009, 22:33

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/

Do a search 10 mile radius of you - sort by lowest first.

Lovely plot of land with a run down shed for £20.000 - it's about 3 acres.

Can't copy and paste the link - it's miles long!!!

chewy · 20 October 2009, 22:47

Is there a site like rightmove but just for land? Is it worth asking a local farmer if he'd sell some. Is the process the same as buying a house?

MikeCC · 20 October 2009, 22:49

You might find more luck with agricultural or commercial agents rather than high street ones. Probably need to make yourself known to them as a potential buyer. Depending on what use, you might find a farmer willing to sell a corner.

Poly · 21 October 2009, 05:58

chewy, you'll also want to talk to the planners before parting with any cash...

Mollers · 21 October 2009, 06:46

Small parcels of purely agricultural land can make as much as £15k an acre in these parts these days.

chewy · 21 October 2009, 07:43

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Small parcels of purely agricultural land can make as much as £15k an acre in these parts these days.

Was £3000 a few years ago!
If the land already has a use then do you need permission to erect a builiding. I know some land I rent needed planning permission as the land currently had no "use".

Fenlander · 21 October 2009, 08:56

Chewy.

We've just sold a few acres with small barn in the next village after 15yrs ownership as we no longer need it... also still own a little over an acre with buildings elsewhere... so have a bit of experience.

We sold ours through a local commercial/land type agent but other pieces near us over the years have sold through the auctions and normal local estate agents... plus of course word of mouth sales that never came on the open market. You just have to keep looking at all the avenues. When we bought ours 15yrs ago we spent 6mths looking everywhere every week almost giving up but in the end we responded to a local paper small ad placed by a farmer giving up and selling in small parcels.

The process is much like a house purchase but without all the complication of surveys. However the solicitors still seemed to find loads to query and delay on like rights of way, boundaries etc.

From our experience the things that I'd be very careful over are... Boundaries - are they clearly marked (ie with white posts) to indicate the sale area and does it match the drawings the legal stuff is based on. Who owns/maintains the hedges/ditches/fences? Rights - does anyone else (public, single person, elec board for poles etc) have rights to go over the land to access another field, are there rights of drainage from other fields across yours. Planning - probably the most important. What is the current status? If agricultural and a field with no existing buildings then anything... even a garden shed... may need planning. Even storing something there like a boat, caravan may be regarded as a change of use. Beware verbal promises any use/building permissions are in place... they need to be documented for the solicitor to examine. Security - If you will be leaving stuff down there is it an easy target for the idiots to vandalise or steal stuff. We were lucky over our 15yrs just having a weak trailer floor jumped through... but others lost tractors, quad bikes, horse tack, tools etc. Flooding - try and view any land when it is very wet. The most attractive grass field can become a bog from Nov-March if not well drained and prone to waterlogging.

Will you need water or power? If so make sure they are in the adj road or the costs are huge unless you just manage. We used to carry water (80l/day) in the 4x4 to our bit near home and we have a bore hole on the other field to save the £2k for a water supply. For elec we used a combination of battery lighting and a genny for mains power when doing jobs.

Finally I'd say make sure your intended use fits in with what folks do around you. If they are all mini private peaceful nature reserves and you want to wear a groove with a quad bike every weekend... or vice versa... consider the possible aggro.

Hope that helps,

David