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Old 03 August 2013, 16:06   #41
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The thing is, you don't know what you don't know. On the roads that is why adequate signage is required by law as is training. On the water when people proceed in ignorance, whilst it is not an excuse, they do not necessarily go out with the forethought of causing harm.
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Old 03 August 2013, 17:23   #42
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If this is the case next time you are out on the water ask a few of the general or boating public what are the standards of behaviour required when interacting with dolphins in Uk waters,
And then maybe ask them if they know anything about the £2000 reward put up for finding the recent Padstow dolphin killer.
I am sure I know which one they will know more about.
The two go hand in hand. Yes they may not know EXACTLY what they should do to interact, but they presumably no know that going out in a pack of 20 boats to hunt one down might not be best practice...

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If you have never been told how to act around dolphins or any other marine wild life how will you know.
Because the news headline prompts you to reflect on your own activities and think "Could that have been me? If I'd been out and come across a dolphin would I know what to do?" So then you go find out.


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As I said before I cannot believe some one would purposely drive over a dolphin but when they swim under your boat as they often do an accident could happen.
I'd say the same about starving a child to death but apparently it does happen! However, I suspect if this was a human death that someone was being prosecuted for the charge would more likely be manslaughter than murder as I doubt they purposefully intended to harm the dolphin but it'd be fairly easy if you are in a pack of 20 boats to have the dolphin trapped uable to avoid a boat and the boat unable to avoid the dolphin.
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I think you've missed my point so i'll explain

( England not Japan )
As a nation we do not slaughter dolphins.

( Probably an Accident )
Not a willful act

I think if you are looking to educate the general public to there legal requirements when interacting with dolphins, Offering a £2000 pound reward for info on the killer is not the way.

This is only giving sea shepard & Bob Archellís Dive Master Insurance publicity.
Nope... I understood it all
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The NSPCC was granted its Royal Charter in 1895, when Queen Victoria became its first Royal Patron. It did not change its title to "Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children" or similar, as the name NSPCC was already well established, and to avoid confusion with the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA), which had already existed for more than fifty years.
There you Go...
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The two go hand in hand. Yes they may not know EXACTLY what they should do to interact, but they presumably no know that going out in a pack of 20 boats to hunt one down might not be best practice...

[ Do we know they were on a dolphin hunt or could this not have just been a family day out, and they happened upon the dolphins. or do we believe everything the media tells us. ]


Because the news headline prompts you to reflect on your own activities and think "Could that have been me? If I'd been out and come across a dolphin would I know what to do?" So then you go find out.


[ Could the headline not have read ? Tragic Accident in camel estuary as juvenile dolphin is injured by propeller.
Then go on to explain how to act ]


I'd say the same about starving a child to death but apparently it does happen! However, I suspect if this was a human death that someone was being prosecuted for the charge would more likely be manslaughter than murder as I doubt they purposefully intended to harm the dolphin but it'd be fairly easy if you are in a pack of 20 boats to have the dolphin trapped uable to avoid a boat and the boat unable to avoid the dolphin.

[ There you go again presuming ( media induced presumption ) the Pack trapped the dolphin.

And I think it would not even be manslaughter as no phsyical evidence present I.E lack of a corpse. ]



You need people to realise they need eductated...
[ I Totally agree Education, and this sad event shows just how much the boating public need alot more.
But a full on head hunt is just great publicty for the companies who put up the reward.]
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BBC News - Skippers admit dolphin pod disturbance in Camel Estuary
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How could this judgement be classed as ignorant of the law !!

The skippers admitted that the pod was encircled, and then they were driving through the pod at speed. You don't need to know the law to understand this is WRONG !!!!

And the only thing they are getting is they have to have a course on boat handling around marine animals, its a joke !!!

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How could this judgement be classed as ignorant of the law !!

The skippers admitted that the pod was encircled, and then they were driving through the pod at speed. You don't need to know the law to understand this is WRONG !!!!

And the only thing they are getting is they have to have a course on boat handling around marine animals, its a joke !!!

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They probably already have great boat handling Skilled if the were SUPPOSED to ALLEGEDLY have drove at High speed through 25 boats that were encircling the pod.
Just my opinion of coarse.
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OK so if you get pulled over for speeding, where you are required to know the law would you accept a Speed Awareness Course rather than points? I assume there is evidence they reduce re-offending hence why they are offered? Yet you already know the law.

They only appear to have admitted disturbing the pod rather than injuring it. I have no idea what the fine for disturbing the pod would have been but I'm guessing less than a tank of fuel. I suspect some education would reduce the risk and also has helped to publicise the fact that education is available which I certainly didn't know till the case came up...

So what punishment did you want to hit em with?
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Neither of the boats were implicated in the injury, there was no evidence against any of the skippers concerning the death/injury so yes they were prosecuted for the lesser offence of harassment. I believe there will now be a pr campaign using this case as an example of the do's & dont's.
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