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Old 22 July 2013, 18:38   #21
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this is just one more sad event that is directly related to the excessive tourism we are suffering . Rock and polzeath are prime examples of soem the best parts of cornwall ruined by the wrong kind of tourism .
Worse still what is not seen is the amount of polution and rubbish that is left daily on our beaches by hordes of holiday makers How many sea creatures of all kinds are being lost . How many dolphins die out at sea slowly strangled by a plastic bag or similar .

head across the channel to France and the beaches are clean and people respect the place . Why is that ?
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It would be very kind of a person if they did find the dolphin that has been killed. Should they get the 2K reward to donate the money toward making the public MORE aware of respectful and safe behaviour, when watching our wonderful wildlife around the UK shores.
I am sure that such money could be used to aid our wildlife and also to aid those people who enjoy the natural world. If I was this person - I would do just this.
Use the 2k to produce written information available for people to read close too and near slip ways/harbours/marinas an so on...........
Yet another surprise to me.... that in actually being able to take a Rib/boat out on the water - one can do so without having to pass any formal information giving or having to pass a responsible safe test !
I would be happy to donate some money toward such an idea or is there such information available to the public already? personally I have not seen any. Other that posted by the kind people on here in response to this tragic story.
Sometimes - we must have rules for the good of all human's and natural world.
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It would be very kind of a person if they did find the dolphin that has been killed. Should they get the 2K reward to donate the money toward making the public MORE aware of respectful and safe behaviour, when watching our wonderful wildlife around the UK shores.
I am sure that such money could be used to aid our wildlife and also to aid those people who enjoy the natural world. If I was this person - I would do just this.
Use the 2k to produce written information available for people to read close too and near slip ways/harbours/marinas an so on...........
Yet another surprise to me.... that in actually being able to take a Rib/boat out on the water - one can do so without having to pass any formal information giving or having to pass a responsible safe test !
I would be happy to donate some money toward such an idea or is there such information available to the public already? personally I have not seen any. Other that posted by the kind people on here in response to this tragic story.
Sometimes - we must have rules for the good of all human's and natural world.
I think the point is that the offer of £2k and the threat of prosecution has made people aware that there may be a problem. It's the request for info to be reported and the £2k incentive that have fed the media attention, that have brought this to our attention
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I think the Sea Shepard are just getting the name out their with this offer, as the chances of anybody actually being convicted from such a large group of boats is slim because even if somebody did come forward what's to say they acted negligently rather than this being an accident.

Awful events with a sad outcome but still, another publicity opportunity for the Sea Shepard to jump all over.

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I would be happy to donate some money toward such an idea


Is there anything stopping you?
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Old 03 August 2013, 05:17   #26
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Alot of hype over what was probably an accident.
I cannot believe for one minute any one would purposely drive into a dolphin.
Who ever did it probably feels terrible enough without having to worry about having a £2000 reward on their head.
Wake up sea shepard & Bob Archell’s Dive Master Insurance this is England not Japan.
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Alot of hype over what was probably an accident.
I cannot believe for one minute any one would purposely drive into a dolphin.
Who ever did it probably feels terrible enough without having to worry about having a £2000 reward on their head.
Wake up sea shepard & Bob Archellís Dive Master Insurance this is England not Japan.
Actually, I agree.
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Alot of hype over what was probably an accident.
I cannot believe for one minute any one would purposely drive into a dolphin.
Who ever did it probably feels terrible enough without having to worry about having a £2000 reward on their head.
Wake up sea shepard & Bob Archellís Dive Master Insurance this is England not Japan.
At the beginning of this thread I had noted the (what now seems was inevitable slide towards) forum politics around S.Shepard etc and my feeling that these politics needed to be avoided if at all possible....(I am no ardent fan of S Shepards way of doing things I assure you)......but seeing as we've got there

I agree that this may well have been an accident, but there is also a need to learn from accidents and try to prevent re-occurance. There was, from the outset, some strong suggestion of harrassment of the Dolphins by several boats.... This needs investigation. Over and above the moral issues, it is also illegal to harrass Dolphins in the UK, and claiming ignorance on the part of the person or persons who (if indeed they did) cause the death is not a robust defence. There is a burden on us to understand (and abide by?) these laws as responsible water users..... The law must be given the opportunity to be exercised (and the finding of culpability or otherwise decided through the proper legal channels.....) To do this, clearly, there is a need to invesitgate /try and identify if a person or persons was /were responsible.

My own feeling is that he attention this has received can only be a positive thing in terms of raising awareness of the legal and moral issues (and potential outcomes of ignoring these) surrounding interaction with wildlife (in general) and cetaceans (in particular).

You are quite right, this is England....but the law also extends to the other countries of the UK too
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Seems to me that Sea Shepard is run on donations yet they want to give away 2 grand
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This event was witnessed and as such the police are dealing with it. Accident or not. It is a crime if there was harrassment, especially, but not only if a death results. But enterprises offering rewards leaves a bad taste. The police are dealing with it. Claiming rewards leads to malpractice. Why didn't they come forward anyway?This now has the publicity, let's hope for an honest and lasting result.
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