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Old 17 September 2013, 07:22   #1
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Bit of a legal question...

My parents keep a launching trolley hidden out of sight (in dense hydrangeas) and chained to a stake. It gets used twice a year. When they came to use it today it was missing.

Rumours suggest a launching trolley had been on some hard-standing along the road with 'please remove' written in washed-out biro on a soggy piece of A4 attached to the trolley.

Yes, it was their launching trolley but after a few weeks the owner of the hard standing sold it at a car boot sale (for naff-all). It obviously wasn't stolen by him (more like someone 'borrowed it' but one scrappy bit of paper doesn't seem a 'reasonable' attempt to track down the owner.

He knew it wasn't his and effectively deprived the owner of its use by selling it without making 'reasonable' efforts to do so - any ideas where my parents stand?

Even if they had spotted its absence earlier and reported it to the Police, the other party hadn't reported it, so 2 and 2 wouldn't have added up...
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Sorry dude, did they have permission to leave it there?
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Nope.

The person who left it there didn't have permission to do so.
The person who left it there didn't have permission to remove it from my parents property in the first place.
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So your parents leave it on their own property?
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Nope.

The person who left it there didn't have permission to do so.
The person who left it there didn't have permission to remove it from my parents property in the first place.
But did the parents have permission to leave it in the undergrowth in the first place?
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But did the parents have permission to leave it in the undergrowth in the first place?
Yes. sorry - unclear on my part. It was originally hidden / locked on their property. Someone nicked it, left it on someone else's property who, after a few weeks, flogged it.

The soggy bit of paper was on a private road, facing away from the proper road and therefore all but invisible.

It had been used twice so "brand new" - not a rubbishy old rust pile that might have been abandoned.
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It was stolen at the point when it was removed from your parents property so therefore you should contact the police and report it stolen and tell them the rest of the story and let them advise you on what to do next.

If it was covered by insurance then I would try and claim for it.

With regards to the guy who sold it, he should have reported it to the police when it was dumped.

How much was it worth?
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It was stolen at the point when it was removed from your parents property so therefore you should contact the police and report it stolen and tell them the rest of the story and let them advise you on what to do next.

If it was covered by insurance then I would try and claim for it.

With regards to the guy who sold it, he should have reported it to the police when it was dumped.

How much was it worth?
250 new, so 130 or so (?). It is a bit of a unexpected bonus if something saleable gets left out for you by the 'trolley fairies!'
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Go and see the police, they'll tell you like it is.

In my opinion, as it was stolen from their land then the owner of the slipway was dealing in stolen goods, simple as that.
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With regards to the guy who sold it, he should have reported it to the police when it was dumped.
Thats exactly what he should have done, so in my opinion, he is liable.
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