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Old 28 October 2008, 14:55   #31
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Sorry I've been absent guys! My desktop just kept crashing, so last night I stripped everything out and gave it a good clean, so far so good

Thanks for all the offers and advice, I'm definatly getting a laptop and have no problems using XP as it's my favored operating software. The Novatech one looks fine, however a copy of XP will be another 70 and a wireless router probably 50ish so is overbudget already

So if anyone can spec a laptop the same as the Novatech one with XP SP3 and a wireless router for about 320 then I'd like to talk with you please.
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Old 28 October 2008, 15:06   #32
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Andy, if you can hold fire until January I guarantee you will see some ridiculous bargains in January sales as all the manufacturers dump stock they over manufactured.

My company recycles Laptops and PCs for Corporates and as such we have thousands of Hi spec Dells & IBM Laptops for around 130ex however you will need to re-install XP (there will be a licence) and whatever applications you need and only a standard trade wty of 30 days as we normally sell by the pallet.

If you want a cheap one let me know.
I'm afraid I can't wait till after Christmas, I'm not too sure when I'll next break down again

Is that 130 for a pallet load I'll be quite happy to talk with you Chris about one of these Laptops, but would obviously want to know the Spec of said Laptops and only if it's no trouble for you.
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andy - if XP cost is putting you off - have you considered becoming a bonifide geek and going to Linux? e.g. www.pclinuxos.com which gives you very "windows xp"-like working environment with out spending a penny. You can download a bootable CD which will let you test it out before you use it (it is obviously slower running from CD - especially booting) but will give you an idea of the environment.
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Andy, you're absolutely on target about the hardware spec stuff. I did all the RIB videos on a P4 with 512MB Ram That said, RAM is king and remember 1Gb minimum for Vista if you choose that O/S - I won't preach to you - choose whatever suits your own usage. Be aware that some laptops, particularly older designs and lots of used ones only support up to 1GB or 2GB RAM. Most new ones can support up to 4GB although this is not all addressable and the limit will always be slightly lower (usually between 3GB and 3.75GB) depending on a number of factors.

Anyway, that Novatach laptop looks OK, it's a fairly standard T2390 based system which is OK... current entry level spec and and much faster then some piece of dog-sh1t ex-lease you could buy for 130. Nobody makes any money from hardware these days - it's all done on the warranty and extras... I notice that Novatech want to sell you their two year package for a few quid and the O/S for a few quid as well.

I have a reseller account with a big name manufacturer who will beat every price, specification and warranty (always on-site, never return-to-base) offered. When you've decided, let me know and I'll do you a quote for a cash deal (I don't offer finance!).

Thanks very much! You know what I'm after Richard, if you'd care to PM me with an attactive price perhaps we can talk further.
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andy - if XP cost is putting you off - have you considered becoming a bonifide geek and going to Linux? e.g. www.pclinuxos.com which gives you very "windows xp"-like working environment with out spending a penny. You can download a bootable CD which will let you test it out before you use it (it is obviously slower running from CD - especially booting) but will give you an idea of the environment.
The XP price isn't really putting me off, just out of my budget with the spec of Laptop advertised at Novatech.

I'm always up for trying something new so will look further into this Linux O/S.

Who's using it out there and is it take less memory to operate it?
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Andy, I was in the same position as you a few weeks ago. My four year old Acer finally died on me so I had to buy a new one. All I use it for is going on facebook, ribnet and ebay, using office and playing music. I didn't want to spend much - less than 400 was the target. After some quite extensive searching I bought an HP 6720 on ebay from a decent looking ebay shop. They had a special offer where you got an extra GB of RAM which was rather good. I think I paid 319 including delivery. It's brand new so has a 1 year warrentee. I'm pretty chuffed with it; its got a nice glossy widescreen, does what I want (most of the time). The only thing that lets it down is Vista; took me a week or so to get used to it, and I personally preferred XP. Vista seems to have a habit of closing IE on a very regular basis which is a pain. My advice is to spend some time looking on ebay for a decent brand new HP. I think they've got a pretty good reputation (avoid Acer - they are crap)
Tim, have you got a link to the Ebayer?
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I'm always up for trying something new so will look further into this Linux O/S.

Who's using it out there and is it take less memory to operate it?
there are loads of people using linux worldwide. it comes in various distributions (or "distros" to use the geek speak). it certainly uses less memory than vista. probably less than XP too. there are free (open source) equivalents for most applications you find in windows. Linux is generally more stable that Windows. Also much less virus, spyware stuff to worry about (which means it needs much less overhead applications to deal with it).

The PCLinuxOS distro is specifically targeted at people who have never used Linux before and are migrating from Windows. There are other distros such as Ubuntu which are more popular with the true geeks. Generally good forum support.

I use it on one machine here and would consider it for any new machines I get.

On the downside drivers for unusual peripherals can sometimes be a headache (but so can drivers for Legacy stuff in Vista).
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It's a few months old but this article might help. PC Pro group review
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These guys (acer aspire one)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&k...l_86qy050c5j_e

were a which? Budget Laptop best buy this month .., in particular the Linux one

But I already said what I said about Acer
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Is it REALLY morally wrong to use a dodgy copy of XP if you have already purchased Vista and aren't using it???

I remember a spokesman for Microsoft saying that they are against piracy but if you are going to use a pirate copy they would rather it be their software than anyone elses!!!

it makes good sense - everyone is so familiar with Microsoft OS that all the big employers will stick with it because that's what their staff use at home.
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