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Old 21 May 2008, 06:37   #1
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Beach cleaning?

Does anyone here get involved in things like:

www.cleantyne.org.uk

or

www.conservancy.co.uk/involved/harbour_watch.asp
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Old 21 May 2008, 15:16   #2
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Nah - I just let our 40' tides do the work!!!

Seriously though our beaches are very clean usually. it annoys me that dogs aren't allowed on many beaches even though the tide covers them 2x a day. people make FAR more mess than dogs.........

I did help once on a beach clean/survey to see what sort of stuff was washed up. plastic bags are NOT a problem but other plastics are - bits of rope - disposable lighters - bottles and all sorts.

I will never throw plastic stuff away but most things will break down very quickly.
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We usually have an underwater cleanup in Monterey (California, USA) once or twice a year. The wharfs (wharves?) where the boat ramps are seem to be a magnet for people dumping stuff: they drive out in the middle of the night and chuck stuff into the water. In the past, we have had as many as 60 divers, 30 support people, and the harbor workforce all collecting stuff. Don't have yearly statistics, but I can recall several laptop computers, a couple of dishwashers, a dryer, a couple of motorcyles, a pickup truck, lots of fishing nets (6 foot by 10 foot framed things; no idea how they're used), warehouse carts and racks, and a forklift. That's in addition to tons (literally) of small stuff.

I actually haven't been diving the past few years; I found playing surface support for the divers is more important than having another body in the water.


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plastic bags are NOT a problem but other plastics are - bits of rope - disposable lighters - bottles and all sorts.
I remember hitting a very secluded beach at the north end of Dominica: Gorgeous spot, but every bush lining the beach was draped with hundreds of plastic bags that had blown in off the water. The beach itself was covered with heavier plastic bits. It was a rather sobering and depressing sight.

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We usually have an underwater cleanup in Monterey (California, USA) once or twice a year. The wharfs (wharves?) where the boat ramps are seem to be a magnet for people dumping stuff: they drive out in the middle of the night and chuck stuff into the water. In the past, we have had as many as 60 divers, 30 support people, and the harbor workforce all collecting stuff. Don't have yearly statistics, but I can recall several laptop computers, a couple of dishwashers, a dryer, a couple of motorcyles, a pickup truck, lots of fishing nets (6 foot by 10 foot framed things; no idea how they're used), warehouse carts and racks, and a forklift. That's in addition to tons (literally) of small stuff.

I actually haven't been diving the past few years; I found playing surface support for the divers is more important than having another body in the water.



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Do you have similar laws to us on dumping waste etc?

Britain is as usual obeying EU law to the letter(all the others ignore it). There are all sorts of taxes and charges for dumping rubbish and forcing it to be recycled - as a result people just dump their rubbsih everywhere - flytipping. Of course it's against the law but they can't catch them.

In Spain they have big bins everywhere and people are actually allowed to put their rubbish in - it is a very clean country!!!
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No idea what your laws are.

We have laws against dumping, certainly, but a couple of hundred years of free disposal is hard to break people of.

In my neighborhood, access to the residential area is up a 2 mile winding forested road. Dumping occured there regularly, everything from yard trimmings to sofas to kitchen appliances. Cheaper than taking it to the dump. The city put up signs saying that the road "is being videotaped for dumping violations" (it's not), and dumping has dropped off dramatically (or is being dumped in the creek now rather than on the side of the road.) I actually assume they're simply dumping somewhere else.

Bottom line: Some people are..., well, never mind...


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...it annoys me that dogs aren't allowed on many beaches even though the tide covers them 2x a day. people make FAR more mess than dogs.........
Erm... right... so what exactly do you think happens to the poo when the tide covers it?

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Erm... right... so what exactly do you think happens to the poo when the tide covers it?

Don't be silly. Everytime it rains there is a million times more poo dumped in the sea than all the dogs in the country could do.
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Erm... right... so what exactly do you think happens to the poo when the tide covers it?


It gets eaten by all sorts of things - and broken up by wave action - unless it's a plastic turd from a joke shop!!!
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]It gets eaten by all sorts of things - and broken up by wave action - unless it's a plastic turd from a joke shop!!!
Agree, eventually, but not nice if it happens to be you swimming along (or boogy boarding) when a dog poo gets in your way...(to the soundtrack of Jaws... ...). The nasty coliforms etc will still be present as well.

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Don't be silly. Everytime it rains there is a million times more poo dumped in the sea than all the dogs in the country could do.
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I'm not being silly. Water companies are spending fortunes in the UK upgrading sewage systems to reduce contaminant levels - why bother if 'everytime it rains' etc etc.?

FYI - if your local beach is assessed as being MCS standard, or Blue Flag, I believe that a 'Richard III' floating past would count as a fail.

It's quite simple really - if you have a dog, and walk it on the beach, pick it up like anywhere else, and stick in it a poo bin.

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