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Old 22 March 2006, 10:32   #1
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I see the UK media has decided that 4x4 owners are now fair game for group vilification

HTF are you supposed to tow a 6m+ RIB using a saloon car I ask you
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Old 22 March 2006, 10:36   #2
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Easy targets!! How would the emmissions of an old clapped out jag or merc compare to a brand new 4x4?? Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0l CRD owner
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Well I have a LWB Vauxhall Frontera that although it looks very big only has a 2.2L engine...does what I need very nicely and has smaller engine than a V6 Mondeo or Vectra or BMW.etc etc etc
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I wonder if any of the manufacturers will challenge and ask THEM to justify!!
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What is really stupid is my pre 2001 3.9l Disco only got a 5 hike. It has got to be one of the worst culprits around. Just 175 next time.
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Old 22 March 2006, 11:36   #6
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I see the UK media has decided that 4x4 owners are now fair game for group vilification

HTF are you supposed to tow a 6m+ RIB using a saloon car I ask you
Yes, but unfortunately the fact of the matter is that 98% of them tow nothing, never go off-road and cause chaos in town centres and outside schools, particularly if driven by women. They are also frequently driven at slow speeds on B-roads because they handle like stuck pigs and generally get in the way of everyone else who can't see past them to overtake. Much as I adore my Range Rover I can nevertheless totally understand why they irritate so many other people. On the other hand, I'd be even more tolerant of the anti-4x4 brigade if they kicked up the same fuss about the impact that discount airline operators like Ryanair and the rest of them have on the environment. They don't of course because the environment isn't actually as important to them as saving a few quid on their tedious two week holiday in the Med.
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Easy targets!! How would the emmissions of an old clapped out jag or merc compare to a brand new 4x4?? Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0l CRD owner
Dunno Steve,On a cold morning when i fire up the old 2.5 diesel cheeryokay everything behind dissappears for 10 seconds
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Interesting and roughly balanced view from the Beeb.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4829628.stm

Having picked up my new 2.5l Nissan Navara on Monday does anyone know how it affects Light Goods Vehicles? it was fixed at 165.

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Dunno Steve,On a cold morning when i fire up the old 2.5 diesel cheeryokay everything behind dissappears for 10 seconds
You should have splashed out and gone for the new merc engine
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There are obvious exceptions, but if you're driving a car that falls within a high tax bracket then its probably worth a few quid and / or costs a few quid to run and the tax hikes are an irratant rather than a reason to change cars. The fact that the tax for my car equates to two and a bit tanks of petrol kind of puts it in perspective for me.
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