Anti 4x4 Brigade

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by Hightower

For my pennys worth I think anyone has the right to drive anything they dam well want to! If you got the money that's great!

Yep...apart from Porche Cayenne's...there ARE limits to bad taste!

Originally Posted by Hightower

I firmly think that the Government are using issues like the anti-4x4 lobby and such like as an excuse to squeeze more money out of everybody and blaming it on enviromental issues.

And you've only just noticed?!

Seriously though, Bliar's 'throw money at the problem' attitude needs to be tempered a bit and government run institutions need to be taught to manage money as efficiently as the private sector.

Take a closer look at your local council and you'll see what I mean...Ours has now paid for personalised plates and a full respray in green for the fu*king recycling lorries out of OUR F**KING COUNCIL TAX.Do these idiots REALLY think that recycling trucks can't work properly without personalised plates....

[pressman]

We have two 4x4s, one we use for serious off road, the other we have for general use.

We have this for safety for my wife and a 11 year old, 9 year old and a two year old.

It is approx 2.5 tons and is built like a brick shit house.

If some tosser under the influence of alchohol, drugs, or whatever comes round the corner and hits it, well thats his/her problem.

I know that my family are in a relativlaly safe environment, I would hope to see them home.

Why should we then be victimised for HEALTH and SAFETY!!

We also use it to tow a heavy rib aswell.

Had a Subaru imprezza, I know which one i'de rather be in!!

[Hightower]

Yep, our council's done the same, isn't everyones.

With regard to my second Quote, I was just making it clear what is happening and trying to be a bit tactfull at the same time.

Still I get Kohaku back this weekend so I can start adding to the Ozone hole and smog over the Solent and lining the PM's pocket.

[Pete L]

Like most other people on this thread I drive a large 4x4 because
a) I need it for towing and launching
b) I have to carry lots of gear around for work and other reasons - including wife, kids, dogs, windsurfing gear etc
c) My family feel more secure in a large, high vehicle
d) I like to use my car (in a responsible "tread lightly" fashion) off-road on the few green lanes left to us
e) I can't afford to have a different vehicle for each purpose so I have one that does all.

I don't try to pretend that my V8 Disco is the most environmentally friendly vehicle going (doesn't get used on the school run - my kids walk) but I don't feel guilty for using it - after all I pay a fortune in duty on fuel, VAT on the maintainance and repairs as well as the road tax.

I guess most of us drive 4x4s for the same reasons as we drive ribs - practical, adaptable and good fun go anywhere vehicles.
We pay for the privilege and besides - there are numerous other factors that add far more to global warming and environmental damage, including cows if some people are to be believed. It would be great if the government would stop lying & just admit they are just using an opportunity to make money but we all know that ain't gonna happen

Like Hightower my baby will be out in the solent causing damage from the first week in April so see you on the water

(Nasher - she will be parked in the bay behind yours from April - keep an eye on her, mate!)

Pete

[Neal]

Originally Posted by Hightower

Still I get Kohaku back this weekend so I can start adding to the Ozone hole and smog over the Solent and lining the PM's pocket.

[donutsina911]

Originally Posted by Jeff Pike

Depends how you drive it! I can get 36 out of my Saab on a good run & hit 16mpg when I'm eating 911's for breakfast. Depends who's driving - Jeckal or Hyde.

agree with everything you said, but in what world is a Saab eating 911's for breakfast?

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by donutsina911

.....but in what world is a Saab eating 911's for breakfast?

Thats cos most 911s are driven by girls both male and female ones Des

[Andy Stevens]

And the rest by Hairdressers!

[jwalker]

[ADS]

Originally Posted by donutsina911

agree with everything you said, but in what world is a Saab eating 911's for breakfast?

Was thinking in must be a 9-3 Aero or an Abbot racing tuned one although im not sure either of them would actually be quicker than a 911......

[donutsina911]

9-3 Aero not in a million years, never heard of an Abbot tuned Saab, but until recently the fastest production car in the world (in top end) was a 9ff 911 that got 250mph and would be suprised if you could squeeze that much power out of a Saab lump.

[Dino]

Depends how you drive it! I can get 36 out of my Saab on a good run & hit 16mpg when I'm eating 911's for breakfast. Depends who's driving - Jeckal or Hyde.

That must be chipped by Prodrive!or are you racing 1970 911sc's

[ADS]

Originally Posted by donutsina911

9-3 Aero not in a million years, never heard of an Abbot tuned Saab, but until recently the fastest production car in the world (in top end) was a 9ff 911 that got 250mph and would be suprised if you could squeeze that much power out of a Saab lump.

http://www.abbottracing.com

Still wouldn't touch a 911 or even a Boxster S, but they can work wonders to Saab powerplants and sort the chassis's out as well -all Hot saabs are FWD and particulary the 9-5 would tourque steer you into the nearest lamp post well before you left the forecourt
Fastest production car at the moment is the Buggati Veryon I believe, are you sure the 911 that hit 250mph was a production car that you could go out and buy and drive home legally on public roads, not a tuned one off?

[ADS]

Originally Posted by ADS

http://www.abbottracing.com

Still wouldn't touch a 911 or even a Boxster S, but they can work wonders to Saab powerplants and sort the chassis's out as well -all Hot saabs are FWD and particulary the 9-5 would tourque steer you into the nearest lamp post well before you left the forecourt
Fastest production car at the moment is the Buggati Veyron I believe, are you sure the 911 that hit 250mph was a production car that you could go out and buy and drive home legally on public roads, not a tuned one off?

I stand corrected Donuts, I thought you knew your Porkers, 231mph was the record. However, that was only because the Mclaren F1 was out of production and that did 241.1mph

http://www.autosportengineering.com/9ff/9ff.htm

[Alice]

Originally Posted by ADS

http://www.abbottracing.com

Fastest production car at the moment is the Buggati Veryon I believe,

Try Buggati Veyron. Duckin fyxlexia can eb a darstab!!

[roycruse]

Originally Posted by Alice

Try Buggati Veyron. Duckin fyxlexia can eb a darstab!!

If your gonna correct someone - at least get it right

Bugatti Veyron

[ADS]

Originally Posted by Alice

Try Buggati Veyron. Duckin fyxlexia can eb a darstab!!

Cheers, now corrected, don't expect you see many super cars in Cornwall, not many round here though either

[codprawn]

Bugatti may be fast but so is the Ultima - and a damn sight cheaper as well.

Holds the current 0-100-0mph record.

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/

May venture towards a CanAm version shortly - fancy building one myself but even the kit is £60,000 - or at least the spec I want is!!!

Watch the vids -very impressive - no fancy electronics and yet just a hint of wheelspin - a real drivers car.

[The Garfish]

Originally Posted by ADS

don't expect you see many super cars in Cornwall

dem cawnish nobburs fink a reeliunt robbin iz a soopercar. thers millyons ov de bastud fings buzzin abowt de lains ov cawnworl orl drivun bi sum hilbilly warin a flatt capp an wiv bigg clummps ov hare sprowtin fromm iz nowse an eers an a ded rabit inn iz fkin pokkit.

tez wot i finks enywaiy

gaRf

[Alice]

I've seen some chaved up scrap in the Sowlint area also! Here in West Sussex we prefer the more executive models.