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Old 21 February 2013, 04:46   #11
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They're selling all of that to the Argentinians to power their Navy
The way the Argy economy's going, they'll be using it instead of horse in the Fray Bentos pies soon
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Old 21 February 2013, 04:49   #12
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They don't need fuel for their Navy at the moment, can't even keep it the right way up

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Anyway we digress, much as I enjoy taking the peese out of ze neighbours, there's a couple of unanswered questions above (and I'm not talking about the one about whether we burn poop)
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Old 21 February 2013, 04:51   #13
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no mistral dealers around here so do not see them. not a big player in the market.

not a big fan of any of the warmflows, they are overfired and tend to eat baffles. they use the same heat exchanger from model 50 to 120 .

I did not comment on renewables due to where you are in the world.

Why such a narrow choice of unit , is it due to spares kept ?.
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Old 21 February 2013, 05:14   #14
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Yeah, very small place, they are the only two options with local agents. Anything else is special order from UK, 2 weeks to get spares by DHL at vast expense or 3 months to get spares by sea. I don't know to what extent the spares are common, but I assume as the machine gets more complex there are more proprietary bits unique to the manufacturer? The old simple boilers are pretty well served, Riello burner spares etc are readily available.
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At the end of the day in your position access to spares is everything, as is local knowlage on fixing it.
In a small isolated island like yours everybody knows whats going on, so perhaps ask about as to who has what fitted and how it has behaved since, no problems after 5 years being a reasonable indicator.
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Would stay away from Heat Pumps unless you have underfloor heating and a thermal efficient house up to current building regs. Otherwise you would be wasting your money.

I have a number of properties with WB boilers (combi, condensing, etc) couple of properties have Glow worm. Cant fault either, certainly WB are the ones to go for, good service, back up and spares availability.

As far as condensing outlets freezing, i haven't had an issue as yet, just make sure the outlet pipe is well insulated / protected, obviously depends on where you live

Depending on storage the other alternative is a Biomass, but you need an area for the wood chips / pellets. Similar size storage area to a 1000 litre oil tank and reasonably close to the boiler.

Just noticed where you live....... forget Biomass, you may have a slight issue with a ready fuel supply
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Just noticed where you live....... forget Biomass, you may have a slight issue with a ready fuel supply
Which brings us back to sheep sh1t
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Which brings us back to sheep sh1t
I notice that Bog Monster (despite his name) has avoided mentioning that sensitive subject - peat. The islanders burn an average of four metric tons per annum each for domestic heating.

Probably in a non-condensing environment
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Bogmonster: If you are useing a peat fire what about a closed boilerstove feeding into a thermal store, the oil boiler should be linked to the store also to boost when needed.
The flow and returns to radiators come from this store, it can work very well and help get the oil bill down, I use this setup at home but burn wood.
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I went for a Trianco condensing boiler last year on a gravity fed system (the old Trianco heat exchanger rusted through after 20 years due to a lack of corrosion inhibitor) - brilliantly simple with no electronics to go wrong, just a flow switch which senses when the remote circulation pump turns on. Very happy after 12 months - just make sure that you add inhibitor to the system and top it up each year.
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