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Old 16 February 2007, 09:56   #11
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"... and I thought 'well, it's amazing what vodka does',"...



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What Winnie didn't mention was that those were the ones that left the homeland to settle in places like Australia & Canada.

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Old 16 February 2007, 13:45   #12
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the Japanese have been doing terrible damage to the shark population - they just cut the fins off and let them go!!!

I would not get too excited about that Codders. Sharks- who needs them?
scavengers, killers,monsters, ( reminds me of a few people).. I had the misfortune to have been on a Florida beach about two years ago, when a small kid distrurbed a bull shark about 1 meter off the beach. The kid was severely mauled. Just give me one resaon why we need sharks?, apart from their skin. pitie mal place mon amie.
Sounds about like the same short term thinking that a country had back in the mid 1900ís when they set up 50 caliber machine gun nest to shoot pods of Orca whales because they ate salmon. They where afraid that it would decimate the fishing. It turns out we did that pretty well on our own. Itís a shame to kill an animal for less then 1% of its mass. And Iím not a tree hugger that comes from someone who heats with wood and eats Elk I shot. To wipe out a species because we maybe on its food chain seems pretty short sited to me. OK Iím stepping off my soap box. :-)
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Old 17 February 2007, 04:56   #13
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No problem friends,

lets put you all in a pool with some great whites. Its not a question of short term thinking... lets get the priority right. Just give me one reason why sharks exist?. Anyway ,nature has a fantastic knack of fending for itself...
- and for that matter am not too concerned with global warming either,(currently its the catch phrase of the moment used by a lot of people who havn't the slightest idea of what they are talking about. What was on the BBC website the other day.. that the over 50's produce more CO2 than any other age group.... what does that mean??? we fart all day?

going to check my tubes..

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the over 50's produce more CO2 than any other age group.... what does that mean???
Its getting a bit off topic - but it is not proposterous.

Over 50's have more disposable income. Therefore more likely to have a larger "gas guzzling" car. More likely to have a larger house (with consequentially higher heating/lighting requirements). In my experience quite often heat those houses hotter than younger people (perhaps more the over 60's). Quite likely to fly more on holidays (due to disposable income and more free time).
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Just give me one reason why sharks exist?.
Eupa, I'd suggest you do a little reading about biodiversity and apex predators.
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- and for that matter am not too concerned with global warming either...
Of course before you do that reading, you'll need to get your head out of your arse!
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[B]Of course before you do that reading, you'll need to get your head out of your arse! [/B

ouch!!!!!!!.....

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Over 50's have more disposable income. Therefore more likely to have a larger "gas guzzling" car. More likely to have a larger house (with consequentially higher heating/lighting requirements). In my experience quite often heat those houses hotter than younger people (perhaps more the over 60's). Quite likely to fly more on holidays (due to disposable income and more free time).

Quite right Polly. Right on every count.

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While I believe that our climate is currently undergoing some rapid changes, there is much less concensus within the scientific community about it's causes than the mainstream media would have us believe.

There was an article int the local paper saying that many scientists believe that the beef industry is to blame for global warming. According to them, cows (and other ruminants such as bison etc) in North America release many times more greenhouse gases through their flatulence than all of our automobiles do. One wonders how we possibly made it through the 1800s when all of those tens of milllions of bison roamed across North America.

As far as the Kyoto Accord goes, it will do nothing to clean up the world's 2 biggest polluters (China & India). What it will do is bring the economies of the first world countries to a standstill, and in turn, drag the third world back into the stone age. But, it will make all of the neo-Marxists happy since global-wide misery is their goal.
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Well it is colder here than it used to be so if anybody has some spare global warming they could use, can they send it this way
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