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Old 04 October 2011, 16:55   #21
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apple playing catchup? they have the market share by a long way. in both hardware and apps. (look in your house 3 apple 1 non )
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Android market share doubles while apple ios falls eight per cent- The Inquirer
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in both hardware and apps. (look in your house 3 apple 1 non )
On paper every spec of my HTC Sensation is better than the iPhone 4 (it is the first new phone I have ever had, and it is also £100 cheaper than the iPhone )
Apps wise, yes the App Store is still superior to the Market however the beauty of it is that there are three different markets for android, all endorsed by Apple. The market is growing far faster than iOS too. Plus I have use of my mum's iTouch to fill the gap...

Both my father and I have jailbroken our iPhones in order to try and increase their potential, admittedly it is becoming less and less necessary with the release of 4 and now iOS5 however surely this shows factually that Apple is playing catchup, not only with Android, but also its own jailbreaking community which is far from insignificant (~17% of all).
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IOS (x) is updated regularly anyway, and the release cycle is fairly standard for Apple, so the new 4s variant is nothing to do with catching up but the normal cycle they have had since the first one.

If anyone is playing catchup, its the others, Apple set the format, style, interface and the rest are joining in. Im not saying that others are worse, or better, just following a growing trend.

Often a dedicated OS on dedicated hardware can play dividends as programmers we can leverage as much out of what we have available, without having to worry about different hardware (which is what you say is a benefit).

You say on paper, either its better or its not, anyone can write specs on paper and it seem better.

A large proportion of people who "jailbreak" a phone, and who overclock a pc, do it without the full understanding of how and why, and get varying results dependent on their skills and the applications you are trying to boost..
Think about the number of numpties who put huuge spoilers, exhausts and wheels on a 1.1 fiesta, does it make positive difference on performance?

Look at the numbers of Ipads (the OP's topic) used in business - look at the market share in that area the rest are poor cousins in comparison (the jury is out on the Kindle Fire, too new).
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Apple playing catch-up?!!

I'm no Apple fan-boy but that is a ridiculous statement, they absolutely set the trends and the original iPod, iPhone and iPad have singularly revolutionised their respective fields. Sure lots of other companies make PMP's, smart phones and tablets but no-one does it as well as Apple or had the industry wide dedicated App support that is the key to their success and growing use. And the intuitive way an Apple product and interface works means for me at least that I would not consider any other make at present. Spec is one thing but the way a products *works* and performs in real life is all that matters. I believe the iPad has something like 70% market share for all these reasons.
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Even your statistics are rubbish! That doesn't tell you what the market shares are or even if the market has grown in overall size and therefore totally misleading.

I would be interested in how you come to the figure of 20% of Iphones are jailbroken or is that just at school?

I bet you even put stuff on your Facebook status to keep it free as well ............

IMHO the Iphone works very well out of the box and you don't need to be fiddling with it to make it work properly either and that is the attraction.
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I found that jailbroken claim a bit wild too - I'm sure the average (non-school kid) iPhone user in the street would not even know what it meant.

I don't think Apple should fear it's competitors too much at present:

Apple Now Has More Cash than U.S. Government
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Sad news that Steve Jobs has just died:

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Not so long ago, we had Steve Jobs, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope.
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Anyone know if an Ipad2 bought in Hong Kong is the same as a UK one?
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