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Old 31 December 2015, 13:53   #31
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Firstly please don't stop posting. I have a feint belief that your inspirational adventures will one day inspire some spotty teenager who is addicted to the t'internet to realise there is a world of adventure outside his house for little more than the cost of his XBox and games. A real adventure, where you get cold wet and genuinely invigorated rather than one where you get carpal tunnel and astigmatisms.

As poly says it should be possible to search for image 'borrowing' and if there isn't a service that exists to do it I'm sure something can be cobbled together with some of the geekery found on the t'internet... Universities certainly already do it for text plagarism. However, as whisper suggests a watermark or signature on a photo makes a difference. Personally I prefer a signature as I think its a classy way of saying "I think this photo is good enough I want people to know I took it" while more subtly saying "steal my photo, you'll be crediting me". I'm sure a few of us have borrowed a photo from the web for a presentation etc over the years. The ones that are signed or have a water mark are less likely to be borrowed in my experience unless you want to say "this isn't my work".

A text footer in your posts that says something to the effect of "Hope you like what I have to say, but if you want to quote it else where please ask first. If its not for profit I will usually agree." You may also want to look at some of the Creative Commons Licences ( which help to avoid mis-interpretation of what you are happy to allow. It sounds like you might want to say your images and words are CC-BY-NC-ND and that you may consider other uses on request?

On your email to the author. It doesn't hit the right tones for me. I'd be far more tempted to look for a template take down or licence fee request letter which I'd send with the expectation of reaching a happy compromise where they publicly apologise on their website for using your material, credit it correctly on any use, and if they are making any money from it pay you a typical licencing fee - that might not be much you'd need to decide what proportion of their income was because of your photograph... If they wanted to negotiate on price they should have done it before using it. If you put the images on a stock photo site you probably get 20-30p per use! But if there are 10 photos thats £3.00. The more photos they've used the more they need you ;-).

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I doubt the law has changed. I very much doubt the law can recognise "Social Media" versus "The Rest of the Web". Is this site Social Media? BUT what I do suspect is that you may either explicitly or through an implication of a statement in the site T&Cs that may say "No content you upload shall be copyright" be 'giving up' your copyright. Although my person interpretation of the above sentence would have been that it can't be subject to someone elses copyright unless I have their permission that is not what my made up example says...

The other thing with social media is the images and text content you are seeing may actually be supplied by the media. So the website may not have "copied it" they may just be distributing the social media's content. Not the case in the Gurnard's case but it can happen through web services and can still look very different. If that's permitted use by the Social Media site you can't argue.

So The Gurnard should check the T&Cs of the site he's uploaded them on to make sure the author doesn't have a case.

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Old 31 December 2015, 14:17   #32
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I know this is something Simon has had to deal with too - I don't often believe in cross forum posting but this thread explains it so much better than I can.

Question to the professional photographers.

Simon Brown is an underwater photographer Simon Brown - Underwater 3D digital photogrammetry but rarely publishes images on his site any more.


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Old 01 January 2016, 02:32   #33
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I can help with the original question

I'm one of a few that deal with 'requests to join' that FB group and after an increase in 'spammers' (people wanting to sell sunglasses or links to porn) it was decided to be a little 'strict' on letting people join.

I remember your previous request some weeks ago but it came from a profile that was 'locked down' i.e no information available on you.

Now some people do have high settings on their profile- which is fine but most boaters have some sort of boating picture on their Facebook which indicates they are 'real' and have an interest in the group.

If I 'suspect' someone- I'll send them a quick PM. Just asking them a simple question- the spammers don't seem to reply.!!

Glad your all sorted and have joined up- you've even got a boat in your profile picture now.
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Old 01 January 2016, 05:10   #34
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^ That's quite keen

A group I moderate on Facebook is dealt with using the following rule: "if you have no mutual friends with me and no friends already in the group, the application is deleted without further thought"

If they are genuine they'll reapply!

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