19 - 13 Roll on the Grand Slam!!

swginn · 27 February 2005, 22:45

Well done to Drico and all the lads!!

Sorry I couldn't resist.

2 more to go now!!

Bittentobuggery · 27 February 2005, 23:57

Congratulations to Ireland for getting the result. They put it a competent performance without quite hitting their straps and this will be a memorable six nations for them. My opinion, FWIW, is that they will come up short in Cardiff.

The IRB need to have a look at the tape of the game in the cold light of day as Andy Robinson has every right to be furious at the decision making of the referee. Of course it sounds like sour grapes and we accept that everybody loves to hate England but with the scoreline as it is, England can feel that they were whistled out of the game.

Areas of concern regarding the referee's performance include : -

1/ Shane Byrne's short lineout throwing was not straight on a number of occasions in the first half and the referee had not taken up a correct position to judge this.

2/ Martin Corry's "knock on" on his own 22 that lead to O'Gara's 2nd drop goal

3/ Cueto's disallowed try for being "offside"

4/ Ireland consistently laying over the ball to impede it coming back when the pressure was on, late in the second half

5/ Lewsey's disallowed try without even referring to the video evidence.

The irony is that the referee prevented this game developing into an all time classic. Had the scoreboard been allowed to build up as it should, the game would have become more open, with more running opportunities for BOD and Dempsey etc. As it was, Ireland hunkered down for what they had and the match will be remembered for the wrong reasons. (Well by the English, anyway)

Rogue Wave · 28 February 2005, 05:03

yes Swginn well done to the Irish! us Welsh are looking forward to winning the grand slam.

Brian

(it's been a while but worth the wait !)

The Jackeens · 28 February 2005, 06:46

Us

The Jackeens · 28 February 2005, 06:49

P.S. Whiteshoes you should be a sportswriter

Us

swginn · 28 February 2005, 08:38

Rogue, yes the Wales game should be one of the greats and the game against France on Saturday was truly brilliant!! Remember Ireland haven't performed up to there usual standard yet in the competition so don't be surprised when they turn it on in Cardiff

Wales will have to do a hell of a lot to break down that Irish defence, who were phenomenal in the dying minutes yesterday!!

Whiteshoes as regards the line outs, they were a hell of a lot better than the English ones, you have to give me that. Otherwise as regards your other points, you're spot on. The standard of refereeing was very poor and even from an Irish point of view we spotted a lot of mistakes given against Ireland also, but overall England can feel hard done by. I cannot disagree and who knows how the game would have developed had Cueto's try been given.

Its a shame as England are now coming on form that Wales have already been knocked off their fixtures list, as it would have been quite a spectacle.

Roll on Cardiff!!

Rogue Wave · 28 February 2005, 10:16

The Irish Welsh match always seemed to be played in the most open spirit of all the International, but it's not usually for such high stakes! It will be interesting to see if the Needle creeps in.

Swing Low Sweet Carryout

Cork Rib · 28 February 2005, 21:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiteshoes

Congratulations to Ireland for getting the result. They put it a competent performance without quite hitting their straps and this will be a memorable six nations for them. My opinion, FWIW, is that they will come up short in Cardiff.

The IRB need to have a look at the tape of the game in the cold light of day as Andy Robinson has every right to be furious at the decision making of the referee. Of course it sounds like sour grapes and we accept that everybody loves to hate England but with the scoreline as it is, England can feel that they were whistled out of the game.

Areas of concern regarding the referee's performance include : -

1/ Shane Byrne's short lineout throwing was not straight on a number of occasions in the first half and the referee had not taken up a correct position to judge this.

2/ Martin Corry's "knock on" on his own 22 that lead to O'Gara's 2nd drop goal

3/ Cueto's disallowed try for being "offside"

4/ Ireland consistently laying over the ball to impede it coming back when the pressure was on, late in the second half

5/ Lewsey's disallowed try without even referring to the video evidence.

The irony is that the referee prevented this game developing into an all time classic. Had the scoreboard been allowed to build up as it should, the game would have become more open, with more running opportunities for BOD and Dempsey etc. As it was, Ireland hunkered down for what they had and the match will be remembered for the wrong reasons. (Well by the English, anyway)

What about Corry's try which should not have been allowed due to O'Gara being taken out illegally or doesn't that matter??.........lighten up whiteshoes and accept your defeat like a man!!

Jon