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Old 15 March 2010, 14:39   #11
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i nearly come a cropper the other morning, i was hacking down the motorway on the phone to my brother trying to get the answer to the crossword that i was doing, i had to break sharply and i dropped my electric razor in my cornflakes
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Old 15 March 2010, 14:41   #12
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Unless you using your iphone as a dictaphone and have lots of money for a good lawyer then its possibly ok.
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It comes down to whether the device is attached to the vehicle AFAIK. That is why CB radios and older car phones with handsets attached by coily wires were legal.
no - old style car phones are illegal (to use whilst driving). and cb radios are specifically excluded from the rules. the definition of "hand held" is quite literally if it is held at some point during use.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032695.htm
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no - old style car phones are illegal (to use whilst driving). and cb radios are specifically excluded from the rules. the definition of "hand held" is quite literally if it is held at some point during use.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032695.htm
I aren't trying to wind you up now but what about hand held CB's, reason I ask is I use mine in my Land Rover?
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Ok so a quick read of that just adds to the confusion .. what does the term 'using' actually mean , my understanding is/was making a call or texting .. whereas an iphone for example could be being 'used' as an MP3 player, on the same device ... but thats not illegal is it ? .. a bit like chewys point ?
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Old 15 March 2010, 16:03   #15
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I aren't trying to wind you up now but what about hand held CB's,
if you read the link I think it is quite clear that ALL "CB" radios would be permitted (but not necessarily saying that you wouldn't get done for driving without due care and attention!).
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whereas an iphone for example could be being 'used' as an MP3 player, on the same device ... but thats not illegal is it ?
An iPhone could be an MP3 player, a SatNav, a Dictaphone, etc. And there is some case law that use as a dictaphone is not in breach of the rules (but might still be driving without due care). That said I don't want to line the lawyers pockets or spend unnecessary time and stress arguing the point in the back of police car so I'd take the approach that - if you are going to use it for those purposes your should mount dash mount it (so its not hand held). I'm not without fault in this area (just as I don't alwats stay under the speed limit) but accept that if I'm caught I'm probably looking at a fine and points.

I think you got off lightly.
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I think you got off lightly.
Oh Biggers, you were a Very Naughty Boy!

Say it: "Who's a Naughty Boy Then?"

...anyway, A Company Director and his Personal Assistant were travelling by car, when she asked him "can I use your Dictaphone?"

"While Polwart says it's Legal, I'd rather you used your finger", he replied.
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I think you got off lightly.
Yeah .. but I think there is a lot of confusion about the law though, and I would have been mighty cheesed if he booked me.. given that you can fiddle with so many other things as has already been pointed out, and there is always the catch all, of driving with undue care and attention .. which of course could have been me knocking down an old lady because I was too busy checking my mirrors for some police car pulling me for a minor 'perceived' offence .. I mean where do you draw the line?

Naturally I played my paragon of virtue card .. I am with all those who agree that being on the phone whilst driving.. especially in LGV's is not good .. as you pointed out Polwart .. time and time again I have witnessed punters driving for long enough whilst on 'auto pilot' and not paying attention to whats going on around them.. maybe he was chancing his arm and pulled me because he thought I was phoning, and only decided to not proceed as I denied vehemently that I was making a call

I also came across another fact that they are not allowed to actually check the phone to see if it was actually being used at the point of occurrence, this guy made no attempt to look at my hands free gear or corroborate what I had said that I wasnt 'using' it .. but as I said earlier that would be easy to establish that I wasnt by my provider account records
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Some recent police driving made my jaw drop. I was walking near Waterloo station, near the Thames, adjacent to the Royal Festival Hall and new shops cafes, etc...

Police car on blues and twos comes flying down the road towards rHungerford bridge. I'm too busy getting out of the way to estimate speed, but north of 40-50mph? Past the milling tourists, drunks, school group, usual for the area.

Car reaches the nearest point to the London Eye. Lights off. Long pause. Two PC's emerge from car, slowly don hats, and proceed at a conversational walking pace to the Eye itself. Given the risks they'd just taken with dozens of pedestrians I could hardly believe my eyes.
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Some recent police driving made my jaw drop. I was walking near Waterloo station, near the Thames, adjacent to the Royal Festival Hall and new shops cafes, etc...

Police car on blues and twos comes flying down the road towards rHungerford bridge. I'm too busy getting out of the way to estimate speed, but north of 40-50mph? Past the milling tourists, drunks, school group, usual for the area.

Car reaches the nearest point to the London Eye. Lights off. Long pause. Two PC's emerge from car, slowly don hats, and proceed at a conversational walking pace to the Eye itself. Given the risks they'd just taken with dozens of pedestrians I could hardly believe my eyes.
Yeah the police are some of the worst drivers on the road! I have seen so many near- misses involving police cars!
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