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Old 10 November 2013, 14:04   #11
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But listen back to the OP in regards to a Whisky tour, our good friend ralph started this idea I think last winter and laid down a bit of work on the forum, can't find it but maybe you could, I know he has done a fair amount of research.
Jambo - was it one of these two?

I can't see any others.

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Eh, no - are you telling me its not there anymore?
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Last week but was not up at the boat park. So calm down if you want I can get someone to check for you.

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Jambo - was it one of these two? I can't see any others. Easdale rib rendezvous 2013 Whiskey Galore!

The first one was ERR. It was the second one I know he has some info re a west if Scot whisky your via rib

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Old 10 November 2013, 14:43   #14
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I don't mind the odd whisky but I don't like it enough to go on a special trip (my boats too wee anyway). IF everyone is the same then you need to make your trip about the journey rather than the destination.
I think you've kind of missed my point. I don't think that everybody is the same. For some people there needs to be destinations as well as the trip. For me - that's one of the drawbacks of the 'Round *wherever* ' bashes - is a trip - without a destination as such. I'm not knocking it in any way - it's just a different type of event. I might go on one - but there's no way my better half would accompany me!!

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Any trip on the west of Scotland can easily include distilleries. If you really want to cover the range of whiskies available then surely you want to visit Wales too? A cunning plan might be a figure of 8 shape trip over 2 weeks that let people do either or both loop?
I guess that the attraction of the West of Scotland. but I added a couple of non-Scotch distilleries as well. I wouldn't be a Welsh whisky expert - I didn't even know such a thing existed till you told me! . But I think adding Wales changes the dynamic of the trip I was suggesting. My first thought is that there's a whole other similar trip down the Welsh coast, South West of England, and the Scillies - but with a different theme other than Distilleries.

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Douglas is an odd place to start - virtually everyone (except those with 3 legs) has a significant trip to get there to start. If you are trying to organise a BIG group then perhaps start at Stanraer? That is accessible to the Scots and N. Englanders, and reasonably short for the Norn Irish. That makes the finish there too - which is possibly practical if anyone has to abandon and needs to get trailers etc?
Mmmm. Interesting point. I had envisaged people cruising to Douglas as a meeting place. Small groups trailing to and meeting in various places like Dundalk, Holyhead, Whitehaven, Stranraer, Port Patrick, etc. It seemed to be reachable from much of the mid western section of the island of Great Britain, and from much of the East Coast of Ireland. Trailing to Douglas means that everybody has to get a ferry - which might be a disincentive. Stranraer could also be a good starting point - although its a longer cruise for those further south. Trailing to Stranraer still means a ferry from Ireland, or the IoM, - but not for those in Great Britain.

I guess anybody could pick up on the cruise at any stage anyway.. but I can see how starting from Stranraer might attract a bigger group... and people from Ireland could either trail over or cruise over...



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Girvan is an odd choice. I've not been for about 20 yrs but unless its had a transformation then I don't think i've missed much and there is no distillery close by that I can think of. Campbeltown isn't necessarily much better but at least has a distillery...

The Crinan Canal is a 6 hour transit, and could take longer at peak season stuck behind yachty traffic. It will add about 60-70 to the cost of the trip; plus the need for lots of fenders and rope that you need to carry and store for the whole visit.
Great. This was what I was hoping for - some educated opinions on the route. The goal is to provide relatively short broken cruises, with something interesting at the end of each cruise. So as much tourist time as cruising time. The distilleries was just a theme that occurred to me. We could swap distilleries for other points of interest on certain days, and change the stopovers and routes to take in better attractions (or better distilleries..)

Similarly re the Crinan Canal. We could head South West and stop off in Campbelltown - as mentioned - the route can be fine tuned...

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You've listed the stills, but not where you would leave the boats and sleep each night. That is a serious consideration. Fuel is also a major thing to consider on such a long trip, especially with no vehicle to support you.

Of course its your trip so these are just food for thought!
Yes absolutely. and again - that was the point of the email. Finding stopping points with safe harbours and accommodation for overnighting, and with either filling stations close to the harbour, or willing to assist by selling petrol to a bunch of guys with cans...


It's not going to be MY trip - we'll need a group - so interested parties are the first requirement! This is very good input.. thanks.
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lc0021 - sorry I didn't communicate well. I didn't mean to suggest that you should make the trip more epic or adventurous or just plain difficult / hard work (as per Round .... events). What I was really trying to say was exactly the point you are making. If it aims to include 'social' activity, or to bring along those less keen on adventure at sea then you need to make sure that the destination each day is worth going to. It appears I may be out of date on Girvan (and my last visit preceded my Whisky interest) but you'd need to be quite a Whisky Buff (or more to the point your missus would) to want to visit half a dozen distilleries one after the other and go on the tour (which largely will be much the same from one distillery to another as 80% of them is about how whisky is made - not what is unique to that site).

A Stranraer start wouldn't necessarily mean that people not from the big island had to tow - you could cruise. I wasn't suggesting it should be Stranraer - if the interest is more from your side of the sea it could be just as easily somewhere on the West of ireland. History suggests that RIBnet trips going to IoM have been dogged by weather issues - you would be relying on a weather window at the start and end of the trip which suits people going in a variety of directions. Thats quite a gamble. Weather is going to be a big factor for you anyway.
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Just for the record, we only have one distillery in Wales, and thats some distance in land, Penderyn has reportably quit nice Wisgi/Whisky though, However we do have some fine Ales in Wales, with many Ale houses scattering our Coast. Personaly I've been teetotal for nearly 20yrs but I will happily dine with family in some of them, even pushing the boat out with a Bitter shandy sometimes.

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Just for the record, we only have one distillery in Wales, and thats some distance in land, Penderyn has reportably quit nice Wisgi/Whisky though, However we do have some fine Ales in Wales, with many Ale houses scattering our Coast. Personaly I've been teetotal for nearly 20yrs but I will happily dine with family in some of them, even pushing the boat out with a Bitter shandy sometimes.
as a frequent traveller - I've long ago decided that the biggest bone of contention between the 'Big Island' and the 'Littler One' is the temperature that beer should be served at.....
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Yes indeed many places serve there beer too chilled I believe, whereas more flavours are released at room temperature.
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Not a huge amout of time today, so having skim read this, advanced apologies if I've missed something.....

Idea sounds good, but as said, you cold have a "hardcore" team that base in IoM, then be joined by "day trippers", possibly cruising in Co. ove rshorter distances. there are a fair few of the smaller boats couldn't carry enough fuel for an 80 Mile round trip.....

Other thought, if you are aiming for Jura, just go round the end - you'll waste a day of your life in the canal - I worked out that a Rhu - Oban would be equi-timed to go round the mull vs through the canal. (and Ironically due to the long displacement trip on my rib + the dues, I might as well burn the premix!


Yes, I dod do a wee survey (I have a long term mission to visit all the shore based ones at some point by sea). I'll see if I can find my previous posts. if not I'll maybe write a sticky for the "info" section, as this is a reasonably frequent proposal.....
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