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Old 27 August 2009, 07:19   #41
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Which website are you using? The only one that I can find to give info so far ahead is Metcheck which I don't find to be particularly reliable, even on a short term basis. It does, however, confirm the westerlies - albeit at 13mph.
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Old 27 August 2009, 07:40   #42
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I agree with you Avocet, the most reliable I have found is XC weather which is French so maybe it would be better for your cruise. Anyway who ever you use have a great timme and stay safe!!'

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Which website are you using? The only one that I can find to give info so far ahead is Metcheck which I don't find to be particularly reliable, even on a short term basis. It does, however, confirm the westerlies - albeit at 13mph.
Yeah, Metcheck. I agree re. unreliability. However, a correlation of info given by several sites gives the wind stuck in the west, it's just a question of speed.
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OK - still don't know what weather website Mollers is using but .....

armed with my new Imray C32 chart, Reeds Channel Almanac, a pair of dividers, Google earth and half a bottle of wine, I've been doing some calculations:

From the Fairway Buoy (5038.24N 0138.98W), I intend to aim for 4840.8N 0107.0W (being tidal diamond C on the chart and some 5M East of the Barfleur point to get outside the race and still remain to the West of the Transhipment Area. It also gives a straight safe transit to the entry mark for the St Vaast harbour). I reckon that the course to steer (for the western group) from the Fairway Buoy is 160T and believe (from experience on the Alderney trip) that my comms will operate in good conditions at up to 15 miles.

If the Chichester group run parallel to us and aim for the same waypoint, I calculate that we should be within 15M of each other when we are 25M out (slightly further for the Chichester lot) or 2/5ths of the way across. If someone in the Chichester lot can operate at the same distance, we should at least be able to talk. At half way across we should be within 10M of each other.

I propose 'Norman Conquest' (having rejected 'Vaast Passage') as the group name and, as previously suggested, C77 for comms.

Anyone any thoughts?
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OK - still don't know what weather website Mollers is using but .....

armed with my new Imray C32 chart, Reeds Channel Almanac, a pair of dividers, Google earth and half a bottle of wine, I've been doing some calculations:

From the Fairway Buoy (5038.24N 0138.98W), I intend to aim for 4840.8N 0107.0W (being tidal diamond C on the chart and some 5M East of the Barfleur point to get outside the race and still remain to the West of the Transhipment Area. It also gives a straight safe transit to the entry mark for the St Vaast harbour). I reckon that the course to steer (for the western group) from the Fairway Buoy is 160T and believe (from experience on the Alderney trip) that my comms will operate in good conditions at up to 15 miles.

If the Chichester group run parallel to us and aim for the same waypoint, I calculate that we should be within 15M of each other when we are 25M out (slightly further for the Chichester lot) or 2/5ths of the way across. If someone in the Chichester lot can operate at the same distance, we should at least be able to talk. At half way across we should be within 10M of each other.

I propose 'Norman Conquest' (having rejected 'Vaast Passage') as the group name and, as previously suggested, C77 for comms.

Anyone any thoughts?
David

Agree looking at the same chart tidal mark C looks the best recognised mark on the chart, then straight on to the SV mark, we are just waiting to see what happens with the weather.
Have a good BH weekend I'll start looking at weather predictions on Tuesday.

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Correction to post #44 above

Nobody appears to have noticed it but before anyone uses the location given above for the Barfleur tidal diamond, please note that the correct waypoint is 4940.8N 0107.0W and not 4840.8N 0107.0W. The mis-typed waypoint is some considerable way inland in the vicinity of St Lo!

Moral: never rely on anyone else's data and always check, double check and triple check your own
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Weather forecast seems to be improving slightly with the weather becoming more settled for 5/6 Sept (at least in the south).

Here's a site that might be worth looking at to help with navigation for those coming: http://www.channelpilot.info/stvaast.php

The label of 'Fort de la Hougue' in the first 'Approach' picture should, I believe, be 'Tower on Isle Tatihou' however.

Please also note that if anyone is using an old chart, Le Gavendest (south cardinal to mark the approach to the harbour) is now SE of where it used to be. (My Oct 2005 chart and current Reeds Almanac show it corrctly but the charts on the St Vaast website have not been updated).

By the way, anybody round The Needles on Saturday and fancy carrying on across the Channel?
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